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    1937 Pre War Map Case

    Morning guys,

    I’ve always wanted one of these from 1/35 modelling in my child hood. I’ve been looking for this colour and ‘type’ with this particular buckle for sone time having missed out on a non-pebbled version (which was a little over priced anyway). This ticked all of the boxes with the strap as a bonus. The only trouble is that the leather looks very dry and I dislike the way it’s been marked in the inside but hey-ho always compromising ...

    Couple of questions :-

    •would you condition the leather
    •do you think the strap is original (it is also pebbled and appears to be the same colour of the case)
    •can anyone signpost me to a decent book where these map cases are covered
    •despite 3 days of searching can anyone recommend a dealer who regularly sticks period case contents (pencils etc)

    What are your thoughts on this item ?














    Thank you,

    #2
    Originally posted by rhys1 View Post
    •despite 3 days of searching can anyone recommend a dealer who regularly sticks period case contents (pencils etc)
    www.kpemig.de

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      #3
      Originally posted by Gran Sasso View Post
      Thank you

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        #4
        That would have been my recommendation also.

        I am not aware of any reference books that focus on map cases. The information is scattered across a range of books covering uniforms and equipment. However there is a lot of info on WAF’s equipment forum. Search for map cases and loads of discussions will be highlighted - including great info on the contents.

        Michael

        Originally posted by Gran Sasso View Post

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          #5
          Originally posted by rhys1 View Post
          Morning guys,

          •would you condition the leather
          •do you think the strap is original (it is also pebbled and appears to be the same colour of the case)
          •can anyone signpost me to a decent book where these map cases are covered
          •despite 3 days of searching can anyone recommend a dealer who regularly sticks period case contents (pencils etc)

          What are your thoughts on this item ?

          Thank you,
          Hello Mate,

          These cases are not rare so if you are not 100% happy with it I would wait as another one in better condition will show up.

          With respect to your other questions:

          •would you condition the leather --> I leave items as I receive them.

          •do you think the strap is original --> I've never seen a strap with this type of case. It might be worth searching the forum if you haven't done so already

          •can anyone signpost me to a decent book where these map cases are covered -->

          Uniforms and Traditions of the German Army Volume 3 by Angolia and Schlicht covers the map case and contents from pages 148 - 155

          Ausrüstung Volume 2 by Rory Pickering has colour photos showing a number of different map cases and their contents from the author and others collections.

          Deutsche Soldaten by Agustin Sainz similar to Ausrüstung

          The Angolia and Schlicht is easy for me to recommend. The other books I would take a look before buying. As Luften has already mentioned you can find a wealth of information here on WAF. This link was the first I got back from a search.

          http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...light=map+case
          Cheers

          Ian

          Always looking to buy Gasplanen and Gasplane related photos & documentation

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            #6
            Originally posted by IanC View Post
            Hello Mate,

            These cases are not rare so if you are not 100% happy with it I would wait as another one in better condition will show up.

            With respect to your other questions:

            •would you condition the leather --> I leave items as I receive them.

            •do you think the strap is original --> I've never seen a strap with this type of case. It might be worth searching the forum if you haven't done so already

            •can anyone signpost me to a decent book where these map cases are covered -->

            Uniforms and Traditions of the German Army Volume 3 by Angolia and Schlicht covers the map case and contents from pages 148 - 155

            Ausrüstung Volume 2 by Rory Pickering has colour photos showing a number of different map cases and their contents from the author and others collections.

            Deutsche Soldaten by Agustin Sainz similar to Ausrüstung

            The Angolia and Schlicht is easy for me to recommend. The other books I would take a look before buying. As Luften has already mentioned you can find a wealth of information here on WAF. This link was the first I got back from a search.

            http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...light=map+case
            Thanks for the book recommendations - I’ll take a peek

            I’ve spent the last week reading everything I can find on here relating to map cases and leather restoration. This one was a good price which, like many other items, I try and ‘trade my way up’ to those really awesome collector pieces, enjoying the chase and the individual items and learning along the way.

            I bet that case with it’s contents in the link you posted cost a very pretty penny ... Id love to afford something in that condition and ‘complete-ness’ but would unlikely be able to afford it off the bat. Hopefully I’ll get there along the way.

            Thanks for the comment regarding the strap - I’ve not seen one either, hence the asking, but it does appear to have similar pebbling pattern - more research required !

            Thanks again
            Last edited by rhys1; 11-09-2019, 07:16 PM.

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              #7
              I completely agree with Ian's comments - particularly regarding conditioning the leather. More often than not, this will adversely affect the integrity of the item. As Ian says, keep your eyes open and gradually improve on what you've got - this type of map case definitely does turn up and often at a very reasonable price. The strap looks period, but there is no telling when it was added to the map case. I'd leave it on the case, unless you establish it is not a wartime item.

              I've acquired a lot of map cases over the years and now I try to focus on ones marked with the name and unit of the owner. Here are a couple of photos of a map case of a Leutnant belonging to the Regimentsstab of Schützen Regiment 14. It came with the pre-war belt of the officer. The down-side is that it looks like someone has tried to treat the leather in recent years. This was a cheap eBay.de purchase.

              By way of map case-related porn, I have also attached a photo of a similar case (also named) along with other types and also German WW2 map boards. A very small part of my accumulation of map cases - a fixation which has also existed from my childhood. Interestingly, the first map case I saw and fell in love with was exactly this style.

              Happy hunting,
              Michael
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                #8
                Originally posted by Lutfen View Post
                I completely agree with Ian's comments - particularly regarding conditioning the leather. More often than not, this will adversely affect the integrity of the item. As Ian says, keep your eyes open and gradually improve on what you've got - this type of map case definitely does turn up and often at a very reasonable price. The strap looks period, but there is no telling when it was added to the map case. I'd leave it on the case, unless you establish it is not a wartime item.

                I've acquired a lot of map cases over the years and now I try to focus on ones marked with the name and unit of the owner. Here are a couple of photos of a map case of a Leutnant belonging to the Regimentsstab of Schützen Regiment 14. It came with the pre-war belt of the officer. The down-side is that it looks like someone has tried to treat the leather in recent years. This was a cheap eBay.de purchase.

                By way of map case-related porn, I have also attached a photo of a similar case (also named) along with other types and also German WW2 map boards. A very small part of my accumulation of map cases - a fixation which has also existed from my childhood. Interestingly, the first map case I saw and fell in love with was exactly this style.

                Happy hunting,
                Michael
                That’s awesome thank you

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                  #9
                  One of mine - for sale
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