Question about variant MP pouch in canvas

[Zauberflöte]

Dear all,

Just purchased this pouch. Construction is all German style (somehow similar to the prototype for the MP43) no markings. I am not certain though for what weapon these were manufactured (I guess for one of the more obsolete Machine Pistole as used by second line troops, SS and Polizei)?

Has anyone a photo/image to share with exact this type of pouch in wear?

Many thanks in advance.

F.

[Gran Sasso]

Has anyone a photo/image to share with exact this type of pouch in wear?

Here you go:

[Gran Sasso]

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[Fritz]

I think this is for the Steyr MP 34 then, correct?

Edit: Obviously not as the magazine is on the wrong side for a Steyr...

[Gran Sasso]

I think this is for the Steyr MP 34 then, correct?

Dont know - I saved it as "Bergmann". Might fit both mags.

[Maus]

Its for the MP35/1 used by police and waffen SS!

[Zauberflöte]

Many thx for the input gentlemen!

And especially you Gran Sasso for the image, excellent!!

Best
Frederik

[Zauberflöte]

I found this interesting photo of Polizei men with two of them (on the right) wearing -to what I believe- similar kind of canvas pouches.

Unfortunately it is not visible what kind of weapons they carry, but I can imagine this would be another then the MP 35 since a 32 rd. magazine would probably be hard to fit? Perhaps for the 20 rd. MP28? After all, these were widely issued to Po. troops.

F.

[Zauberflöte]

Another pouch that needs a further identification.

it fits a MP40 magazine and appears IMO as a late war production (see also removed stitching at the back that might indicate donor/ersatz fabric). RbNr marking in the inside (last photo not representative for the correct color).

Any help much appreciated!

[Zauberflöte]

Most likely the fabric comes from a Luftwaffe backpack for example...?

[Zauberflöte]

Anyone? Judging by the RbNr, more of these must have been produced. In blue, but likely also in other colors.

[me6_130]

Can you show the lower of this last pouch? By comparing to the LW rucksack I've got the impression it is, in fact, a pocket transformed into a pouch, as the back of it is so poorly made.

Carles

[Zauberflöte]

Can you show the lower of this last pouch? By comparing to the LW rucksack I've got the impression it is, in fact, a pocket transformed into a pouch, as the back of it is so poorly made.

Carles

Thanks for weighing in, yes that could be very likely, therefore I made indeed that comparison. Actually the pouch is made from multiple different pieces of fabric (clearly to be seen at the back where the horizontal seam divides the two parts).

A few additional photos clearly show previous stitching from a donor garment, I have marked those parts.
The pouch shows wear and age as well. Typical last ditch construction IMO.

[me6_130]

From those pics I would say it is not an original MP pouch but made out of a pocket. I even doubt it is field made as the state of the leather of the loops show they were not shewn when leather was soft but when it was dry.

Carles

[Zauberflöte]

Thank you, but with respect, I think you are incorrect.It was definitely not field made IMO and very much resembles the pouch that started this thread in way it is constructed. Leather is far from dry at the points were it was attached and the pouch is well made.

I have actually no doubt the pouch is original, just wondered if more are around. It's like late war breadbags constructed from different pieces, none will be the exact same.