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    Late war yellow presstoff shovel carrier. Helps needed

    Hello, can someone help me with this piece, even it looks food on first sight I have a felling it is fake...Thanks all
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    #2
    Well, the stamp is correct, as is the WaA with this maker, but the stamp is on a place i‘ve never seen it before (with this maker that is!!)

    Also the material is strange....... would love to inspect this one by hand

    my first impression is fake......

    Tom
    www.mp44.nl
    looking for ..... brown A-frame mess tin strap with alu hardware

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      #3
      100% repro.
      Still looking for LARGE SIZE M43 gabardine jacket and m43 gabardine cap ... maybe some day I will find it best regards Marcin

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        #4
        Blimey! Far from an expert on these so just wondering if this is a really good fake or if I need to do more homework?
        Cheers

        Ian

        Always looking to buy Gasplanen and Gasplane related photos & documentation

        https://www.allaboutgasplanes.com
        https://www.decisivehours.com/

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          #5
          Originally posted by IanC View Post
          Blimey! Far from an expert on these so just wondering if this is a really good fake or if I need to do more homework?
          It is indeed a very good fake from what I see in these photos.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Rheinmetall View Post

            It is indeed a very good fake from what I see in these photos.
            Not very good fake, but simply a good repro( but seen a way better examples); many things are wrong it (stamp is in wrong place, imitation of presstoff, leather, lenght of loops for belt).. If it was a very good fake than most probably you would not distiguish it from original (and I've seen repros very close to originals which with some aging could fool collectors).
            Still looking for LARGE SIZE M43 gabardine jacket and m43 gabardine cap ... maybe some day I will find it best regards Marcin

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              #7
              I don't disagree with your statement here, I only used the wording of "very good fake" to convey the attempt at fakery...not to imply it is difficult to distinguish it from an original.

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                #9
                Originally posted by anmarlodz View Post

                Not very good fake, but simply a good repro( but seen a way better examples); many things are wrong it (stamp is in wrong place, imitation of presstoff, leather, lenght of loops for belt).. If it was a very good fake than most probably you would not distiguish it from original (and I've seen repros very close to originals which with some aging could fool collectors).
                Thanks, I was looking for areas to compare this one against known originals.
                Cheers

                Ian

                Always looking to buy Gasplanen and Gasplane related photos & documentation

                https://www.allaboutgasplanes.com
                https://www.decisivehours.com/

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                  #10
                  Simply, does anybody have ever seen such reddish material inside ? I don't

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                    #11
                    Originally posted by Willmore View Post
                    I wonder if it is a piece for re-enactment, possible made by Vincents equipment.

                    https://m.facebook.com/vinceqp/
                    And those are very good repros (actualy the best I have seen).
                    Still looking for LARGE SIZE M43 gabardine jacket and m43 gabardine cap ... maybe some day I will find it best regards Marcin

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                      #12
                      Originally posted by Willmore View Post
                      I wonder if it is a piece for re-enactment, possible made by Vincents equipment

                      https://m.facebook.com/vinceqp/
                      Hello, I dont use "original" materials,my pressstoff is different .
                      This carrier was sold for 200e on czech auction site last week,Material is from old suitcase,original leather parts and good sewing thread,but result is still fake item.

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                        #13
                        HI Vincent,

                        Thank you for the information!

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                          #14
                          And another (overpaid) copy on ebay (someone threw 223€ away)

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                          Tom
                          looking for ..... brown A-frame mess tin strap with alu hardware

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                            #15
                            Looking at these last photos Tom has posted, it's pretty conclusive that these are fakes. The inner die-cut edge in the last photo is way too pristine - it shows that this is a brand new copy that has been "dirtied up". The "aged" leather straps added to complete the effect.
                            SF Mike

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