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    #31
    100 Points Engraved or stamped...it was added later. But some People simple never hear what you say, so is better leave them alone and who ever will buy that then.....sorry for you in Advance.

    Originally posted by cossack1648 View Post
    Is that "SS" stamp really a stamp or an engraving? Maybe close up photo under magnification would help to determine that. It definitely looks different in style an application than logo stamp. It seems to be applied after black paint was applied and there is no white paint in the recesses like on other markings, so it wasn't applied at the factory to indicate SS order like in RUKA binos.

    When looking at the screws they look like someone tried to turn them, when comparing to screws on other panels. That is a sign of messing around and indication that someone tried or did taken that panel off.

    Jack
    WWW.EDELWEISS-ANTIQUES.COM

    Specialized in Uniforms, Mountain Troops and Heeresbergfuhrer

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      #32
      At the very least a moderator should link this discussion to the sales thread.

      Chet
      Zinc stinks!

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        #33
        All markings are probed with an engraver. As with all Hensoldt binoculars. All markings are made in one way. Nothing is "made up".

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          #34
          Originally posted by Chet Sowersby View Post
          At the very least a moderator should link this discussion to the sales thread.

          Chet
          I agree.
          The person selling has a link to this discussion but I think that when a Mod. or Admin does it, that is the ‘red flag’ that people need to see.
          It’s more or less giving a prospective buyer the ‘Caveat emptor’ that some people need to see!!!

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            #35
            Antique..... : On this page, they write about repainting binoculars. An old topic like the world. Nothing new.

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              #36
              I expect that the threads will be combined. I'm not focused on fast sales. It is rather a revival of the discussion about the object. greetings

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                #37
                Man, i have no clue why some People post there Stuff and then not want to understand what they have. If you think it is all good and real, perfect i am happy for you. But please, sell it on Ebay or somehwere else.
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                  #38
                  You will not tell me what to do! Who are you to create as a professional. Attaching a link to a website does not mean anything. The collector's environment is full of self-proclaimed experts. If you show me the merit-based analysis of this binoculars, I will agree. For now, you just shout. You send me to Africa. You send me on eBay. Stupid, malicious chat.

                  I am a collector with several years of experience. I have such gebirgsjager collections that you have seen only on the internet. The same with optics. I would really care more about the words.

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                    #39
                    AbtiqueWWII:

                    Someone who spends almost 800 posts a year is for me an ordinary troll and an unbalanced person.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by grygierek2 View Post

                      I am a collector with several years of experience. I have such gebirgsjager collections that you have seen only on the internet. The same with optics. I would really care more about the words.
                      That's pretty arrogant statement.

                      As far as binos go, if you post a controversial item on the forum some people will have doubts. You demand a proof that they are fake, but did not show any proof that they are real. So to me they are still in the "to believe", or "not to believe" category. Maybe if you have shown any other examples of similarly marked SS Vilaba binos, they would be more believable which would help your sale.

                      Nobody saw and knows everything and term "professional" applied to the hobby is kind of strange. Even many "experts" who wrote books were proven wrong. On the other hand there are few things that were commonly considered fake and later after evidence was found they became proven as real. Maybe your binos are another example, but that needs to be proven.

                      Jack

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                        #41
                        OK good for you then. I stick with Africa and that your Glas is Grabage. And the Link i posted is for you to learn, but since you know all, then why you even post here and ask for Opinion? You want what? A XRay analyse form your 50 Euro Bino? Sorry cant give you that. And i collect more then 30 Years, but i would never say i know all. But i have seen a lot, and one of the Things i have seen, is several of this cheap Trys to add some Markings and then say it is the Holy Grail and worth a Ton of Money. Anyway, i guess is better to simple not Answer at all anymore and just wonder about what is going on.


                        Originally posted by grygierek2 View Post
                        You will not tell me what to do! Who are you to create as a professional. Attaching a link to a website does not mean anything. The collector's environment is full of self-proclaimed experts. If you show me the merit-based analysis of this binoculars, I will agree. For now, you just shout. You send me to Africa. You send me on eBay. Stupid, malicious chat.

                        I am a collector with several years of experience. I have such gebirgsjager collections that you have seen only on the internet. The same with optics. I would really care more about the words.
                        WWW.EDELWEISS-ANTIQUES.COM

                        Specialized in Uniforms, Mountain Troops and Heeresbergfuhrer

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                          #42
                          It's always the same, I didnt have seen it before = it's a fake
                          and also it's horrible when peoples with an dangeres half knowledge post there opinions.

                          The SS-Dienstglas Vilaba Roma is original. You will find this binos from
                          serial number 42245 to 43900. I cant say if all numbers where marked with SS-Dienstglas but in this range you find this binos.
                          The optical store VILABA in the city ROMA (Italy) ordert binos with his markings on it. I was in contact with new store owner in 2012 to get informations about this binos.
                          In 2011 I got parts from an dug out Vilaba Roma SS-Dienstglas which was found near ENNS in Austria, so I started investigations and so I can say that this binos are not an fake !!!
                          This binos where stamped with VILABA ROMA for export.

                          And to show this webside https://dienstglas.hpage.com/faelschungen.html as an reference

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                            #43
                            A bigger Story then this you have not to come up with? The Glas is complete Trash, a good Glas with a added Stamp no more no less. Opitcal Store Owner from Vilabla in Roma???? Can you please post your Parts you got from your Dug Out Glas. Then all the Fake Binos i have seen the last 30 Years are original, yeah right. You are the only one here who think that Crap is real, so when you are so sure, then please just let me see one single Solid Proof, and no Story from the Store Owner in Roma. And then lets see what is this all about the horrible half Knowledge.....Binos stamped in Italy for the SS for Export.... Sorry, forgot, i have seen them before...the exact same one....but as FAKE. I am willing to learn something new, but i am affraid here there is really nothing to learn, maybe only to wonder on all the Items what Today are real what 20 Years ago you could buy for a few Bucks.....

                            Originally posted by benutzer View Post
                            It's always the same, I didnt have seen it before = it's a fake
                            and also it's horrible when peoples with an dangeres half knowledge post there opinions.

                            The SS-Dienstglas Vilaba Roma is original. You will find this binos from
                            serial number 42245 to 43900. I cant say if all numbers where marked with SS-Dienstglas but in this range you find this binos.
                            The optical store VILABA in the city ROMA (Italy) ordert binos with his markings on it. I was in contact with new store owner in 2012 to get informations about this binos.
                            In 2011 I got parts from an dug out Vilaba Roma SS-Dienstglas which was found near ENNS in Austria, so I started investigations and so I can say that this binos are not an fake !!!
                            This binos where stamped with VILABA ROMA for export.

                            And to show this webside https://dienstglas.hpage.com/faelschungen.html as an reference
                            WWW.EDELWEISS-ANTIQUES.COM

                            Specialized in Uniforms, Mountain Troops and Heeresbergfuhrer

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                              #44
                              And one more Thing, you say these Binos where made for Export, i guess you mean from Hensoldt in Germany for the Italians, that was the way they did that. So these Glasses are made for Export to Italy. Then please explain me why they should then have a SS Stamp there? Where is the logic in that?

                              And i like to get my Half Knowledge always as good as possible together, so of course i contacted until now 2 Museums, and 3 Lifelong Optic Collectors, and they know what they talk about. And each and everyone of them told me the same, you right, they are Fake.

                              Would you please now with your absolute Full Pro Expert Knowledge bring some rock solid Proof that these Binos here are indeed made for the SS, Stamped exactly like this. I am more then happy that you get it right, but please do it then with Proof not with a Story. Maybe the SS owned a special secret Bino Fabric, because it was most important they got Glasses with SS Stamp....that make the Binos then 10 Times better and they could then see the Enemy then even he was not there yet.

                              All i know, i have seen these Binos the past 25 Years, a lot Times on different Places...sometimes sold as original, sometimes as Fake, always same looking with the same markings.
                              Last edited by AntiqueWW2; 08-05-2019, 11:27 AM.
                              WWW.EDELWEISS-ANTIQUES.COM

                              Specialized in Uniforms, Mountain Troops and Heeresbergfuhrer

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                                #45
                                ....... i have seen these Binos the past 25 Years......thats the answer for all what you have written !!!
                                over and out

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