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    Heer nco eagle....olive backing colour

    a Friends has been offered a tunic and the eagle seems strange to him being on a olive green type backing ..then sewn to the usual dark green wool/felt ....said I would post it for some advice
    Thanks in advance
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    Hi Gary,

    This is a bit of a guess, but going by what I know from collecting eagles, this is my theory.

    01 - A first pattern army flatwire breast eagle with similar olive coloured backing to the eagle on the tunic you posted.

    02 - A second pattern eagle manufactured in first pattern colours, because the design of the second pattern eagle was circulated to manufacturer's before the big switchover in 1936, when the colours changed, and the second pattern design eagle was produced in white thread on dark green. What 02 proves is that some manufacturers were producing a second pattern design eagle in first pattern colours, prior to the switchover.

    So, if you imagine a flatwire second pattern breast eagle on first pattern olive coloured backing (like 01), it would look a lot like the eagle that you posted, wouldn't it? That would be my suggestion about what it is; a second pattern design eagle made on first pattern colours.

    03 and 04 are examples I have of flat-woven eagles that were put on backing prior to application on tunics to give them a bit more body, to make them stand out. It was a similar principle to first pattern waffenrock breast eagles.

    So the breast eagle on you tunic being on wool backing could be an example of that.

    Like I said, this is a bit of a guess, pulling together various period elements.

    I hope this is useful.

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      And for what it is worth, I think the eagle on the tunic you posted is definitely original, and if it is what I think (a second pattern design on first pattern colours) it is one you don't see very often, so it actually adds character to the tunic.


        Nothing wrong with your eagle Garry



          Good one, had one on a summer lightweight tunic. J


            Originally posted by sander vw View Post
            Nothing wrong with your eagle Garry
            +1. That's what I'm thinking.
            Seeking photographs of Joachim Tiesler, DKiG Stalingrad, 3rd I.D. (mot.) and Clemens Freiherr von F├╝rstenberg, DKiG 7th Panzer Division.


              Thanks for the info folks.......I think what threw him was the colouring .....seems Heer eagles are just as complex as SS ones


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