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    black grip army dagger

    Hi guys,
    I'm not over here much, since I sold all my daggers a few years back! (nothing special I'm sad to say)
    But I'm posting this one for a friend, hoping for some info.
    I've not seen a black grip before, and any help would be very welcome.
    I was found balanced on a wooden rafter in the loft of an old house, after the old guy passed on, while the house was being converted into apartments. The grips definately black...
    regards
    jon
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              It's actually a First Model (1935) Railway dagger. Robert Klaas seemed to be the primary maker for these.

              Condition could be a little better, but it's a nice find nonetheless!

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                Originally posted by Skipper Greenwade
                It's actually a First Model (1935) Railway dagger. Robert Klaas seemed to be the primary maker for these.

                Condition could be a little better, but it's a nice find nonetheless!

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                Thanks for the info Skip,
                more questions...
                so to distinguish from the army models, they put a black grip on a standard army one? When did they change to the 2nd Model?
                regards
                jon

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                  #9
                  Hi Tim,

                  The Second Model Railway was introduced in 1938. It was quite distinctive, retaining the black grip, but with the winged, train wheel crossguard, sun-wheel swastika on top of the pommel and the smooth scabbard shell beign the most pronounced characteristics.

                  Happy hunting!
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                    #10
                    Now that is one great find!I've been looking for one(that I can afford!!) for a long time!!

                    I believe that the 1st mod Rails made by Klass have a grip that is longer than the standard Heer grip.

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                      Originally posted by Skipper Greenwade
                      Hi Tim,

                      The Second Model Railway was introduced in 1938. It was quite distinctive, retaining the black grip, but with the winged, train wheel crossguard, sun-wheel swastika on top of the pommel and the smooth scabbard shell beign the most pronounced characteristics.

                      Happy hunting!
                      Skip
                      yes, I think I've seen the 2nd model, quite a change from this one.
                      and yes Rich, the grip is very long (I hadn't noticed!)
                      anyone else have one to compare?
                      regards
                      jon

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                        #12
                        1st Rail grip

                        Should be about 3/16" longer than the standard Army grip. Very nice dagger. Is the plating gone or heavily patina'd?
                        DJ

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                          Nice
                          God please take justin bieber and gave us dio back

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                            Nice piece!

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                              #15
                              White paint?

                              Now the loaded question.....any traces of white paint on the black grip?

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