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    HJ Knife Makers Database

    Having participated in similar ideas in the cross section run by Blitz ive been plotting with whether a similar idea might work with youth knives. I think it might prove interesting to see what makers there are in members collections, although iam sure we only have a very small percentage of those out there i hope it might provide a useful exercise.

    Listing by maker and then early, transitional or late with any details of interest should be straight forward.....i hope!

    if you do have any HJ's please drop down what you have and i will update the list as it grows ( i will order them as the manufacturer appears in the rzm numbers M7/1 - M7/118 )


    thanks mike

    starting off then

    M7/1 Gebrüder Christians, Christianswerk, Solingen

    Early MM With Motto
    Small Diamond 22/23mm
    Black Leather Hanger


    M7/2 Emil Voos Waffenfabrik, Solingen


    Early MM Small Diamond with Motto

    Late RZM Dated 1940
    Black Leather Hanger


    M7/5 Carl Julius Krebs, Solingen

    Late RZM
    Non Magnetic Plating (blue tinge) & Rivets Black Leather Hanger


    M7/6 H. & F. Lauterjung, Solingen

    Transitional (no rzm probably worn away)
    Non Magnetic Plating, Magnetic Rivets. Hanger Leather like k98 pouches


    M7/7 Hermann Konejung, Solingen

    Early with Motto
    Brown Leather Hanger marked LfS


    Late rzm with Plastic Hanger


    M7/8 Eduard Gembruch, Solingen-Grafrath


    Transitional RZM & Motto
    LFS Hanger

    M7/9 SMF - Solinger Metallwaffenfabrik Stoecker & Co., Solingen
    Early SMF solingen Ges Geschutz with Motto Small Diamond

    M7/10 J A Henckels, Solingen


    Early MM with Motto, small diamond 23mm
    Brown Leather Hanger marked LFS

    Transitional MM & RZM dated 1937


    Transitional MM & RZM Dated 1937

    Transitional 1938, RZM & MM with Motto
    & Zwillingwerk Ges Geschutzt
    Leather hgr marked oakleaf/LFS

    Transitional 1938 RZM & MM (only maker logo no company name)

    Late RZM dated 1939

    Early MM & Zwillingwerk Ges Geschutzt, with Motto, Small Diamond

    M7/11 K. & Co Solingen (E. Knecht & Co.)

    Early MM with Motto Small Diamond 22mm
    Brown Leather Hanger, single cotton runner

    Transitional MM and RZM and dated 1937, with motto on the blade. Magnetic plating, and Non Mag rivets. Black hanger with LS marking.

    Late RZM and MM Dated 1939
    Non Magnetic Rivets and Plating, Black Leather Hanger

    Late RZM and MM Dated 1938

    Late RZM & MM Dated 1940
    Non Mag Plating, Mag Rivets, Black Leather Hanger

    M7/12 Carl Robert Kaldenbach

    Late MM of Wusthof (M7/19) but RZM of M7/12
    dated 1940


    M7/13 Arthur Schüttelhofer & Co. Solingen-Wald


    Transitional MM & RZM with Motto
    Black Leather Hanger

    Late RZM (off centre)
    Magnetic Plating & Rivets Black Leather Hanger

    Late RZM (off centre)
    Non Magnetic Plating (blue tinge), Magnetic Rivets. Black Leather Hanger

    Late RZM (off centre)
    Non Magnetic Plating, Magnetic Rivets, Black Leather Hanger

    Late RZM
    Leather Hanger Stamped LFS


    M7/14 P. D. Lüneschloss


    Transitional 1936 RZM with Motto

    Transitional 1936, heavy cast iron construction with motto. Small 22mm Diamond
    LFS Marked darker brown leather hanger

    Transitional 1936 RZM with Motto (No Makers Logo) Small 22mm Diamond
    Magnetic Plating and Rivets Black LFS marked Leather Hanger

    Late 1937 RZM (No Motto)

    M7/18 Richard Abr. Herder, Solingen

    EARLY Part MOTTO
    Small Ricasso, Small Diamond Part MOTTO

    Transitional RZM & MM Dated 1941 (Plastic Hanger)
    Non Magnetic plating, Magnetic grip rivets

    Transitional/Late RZM & MM Dated 1940


    M7/19 Edward Wüsthof Dreizackwerk, Solingen

    Early MM with Motto
    Non magnetic plating or rivets.

    Early MM with Motto

    Transitional MM & RZM with Motto
    dated 1937

    ((*Listed as M7/12 above* Late MM of Wusthof (M7/19) but RZM of M7/12
    dated 1940))

    M7/22 Wilhelm Weltersbach, Solingen

    Early MM with Motto
    Brown Leather Hanger


    M7/27 Pumawerk (Lauterjung & Sohn) Solingen

    Early MM w Motto, Small Diamond

    Early MM With Motto
    Brown Leather Hanger

    Early MM (no more info)

    Transitional MM & RZM 1937 With Motto

    Tranistional MM & RZM With Motto
    Dated 1937 Black Leather Hanger

    Late RZM Dated 1941
    Black Leather Hanger

    Late RZM Dated 1941
    Black Leather Hanger



    M7/28 Gustav Felix, Gloriawerk, Solingen

    Early with MM & Motto, Small Diamond 22mm
    Magnetic Plating, Non Magnetic Rivets Brown Leather Hanger


    M7/29 Klittermann & Moog G.m.b.H., Haan

    Transitional RZM & MM Dated 1939 (no Grip plates)
    Magnetic Plating, Brown Leather Hanger

    M7/31 August Merten Mw., Solingen-Grafrath

    Early MM with Motto

    M7/32 Robt. Muller, Solingen-Merscheid

    Transition RZM & MM (no other info)

    M7/33 F/W. Höller, Solingen

    Late RZM
    Non Magnetic Plating, Magnetic Rivets, (Hanger Lost)

    M7/34 Rudolf C. Jacobs, Solingen-Grafrath

    Late RZM, Magnetic Steel Rivets & Magnetic plating.

    M7/36 E. & F. Hörster, Solingen

    Transitional MM & RZM of M7/37 (R Klass) with Motto
    Small 22mm diamond, Magnetic Plating and Rivets, Black leather hanger

    Transitional MM & RZM of M7/37 (R Klass) with Motto

    Transitional (No MM) RZM with Motto
    Black Leather Hanger

    Late RZM
    Non-magnetic pommel & hilt, magnetic rivets, Black Leather Hanger


    M7/37 Robert Klaas, Solingen-Ohligs

    Early MM Dated 1937 with Motto

    Early MM with evidence of Motto
    Small 22mm Diamond, Magnetic plating, Non Magnetic Rivets. Hanger MM LS

    Late RZM 1938

    Late (MM?) & RZM dated 1938


    M7/38 Paul Seilheimer, Solingen

    Early MM with Motto (mint)

    Late rzm, Black Leather Hanger



    M7/40 Hartkopf & Co. Solingen

    Early MM with Motto (HARTKOPF & Co SOLINGEN GES,GESCHUTZT)
    Small Diamond 22mm

    Transitional RZM & MM Dated 1936 With Motto Small Diamond M7/40/36

    Late RZM & MM
    Non Magnetic plating, Magnetic Rivets and a Black Leather hanger

    Late RZM only

    Late RZM on ricasso Non Mag Hilt, Mag rivets, Black Leather Hanger


    M7/42 W.K.C. (Weyersberg, Kirschbaum & Co.) Waffenfabrik, Solingen-Wald

    Early MM (Motto lost)
    Magnetic Plating, Non Magnetic Rivets
    Brown Leather Hanger

    EARLY Ges.Geschutzt WKC Solingen
    small daimond, no motto (worn), complete scabbard

    Transitional 1937 RZM & MM with Motto Small Diamond

    Late RZM Dated 1940 Non Mag Hilt Magnetic Rivets Black Hanger

    Late RZM Dated 1940 Non Magnetic Plating, Magnetic Rivets. Brown Leather Hanger (looks possibly dyed black?)

    M7/44 F. W. Backhaus, Solingen-Obligs

    Early MM with Motto, Small diamond

    M7/51 Anton Wingen, Jr., Solingen

    Early MM with Motto
    leather hanger

    Early MM with Motto
    Magnetic Plating, Non Magnetic Rivets, Black Hanger

    Early MM with Motto, small diamond

    Early MM with Motto

    Transitional RZM Dated 1938 with Motto

    Late RZM Dated 1939
    Magnetic Plating, Non Magnetic Rivets. Black Leather Hanger


    M7/56 C. D. Schaaf, Solingen

    Early MM with Motto (missing diamond)
    Magnetic Plating, Non Magnetic Rivets (no scabbard)

    Late RZM Dated 1938
    Magnetic Plating & Rivets. Black Leather Hanger MM LS

    Late RZM Dated 1940


    M7/59 C. Lutters & Co., Solingen

    Transitional RZM and MM
    No Motto


    M7/60 Gustav L. Koller, Solingen

    Transitional RZM and MM With Motto

    Transitional RZM & MM with Motto Small Diamond

    Transitional RZM MM With Motto

    M7/62 Friedrich Plucker Jr, Solingen-Grafrath

    Early MM With Motto

    M7/65 Karl Heidelberg, Solingen

    Transitional RZM and MM
    With Motto black leather hanger

    Transitional RZM and MM
    No Motto


    RZM M7/66 Carl Eickhorn

    Early With Motto & MM (No more info)

    Early MM Small Diamond
    Leather Hanger stamped LFS

    Early MM Ges.Geschutzt (no other info)

    Late Dated 1939 RZM & MM
    Magnetic rivets (no scabbard)

    Late Dated 1940 RZM & MM
    Non Mag Plating, Mag Rivets, Black Leather Hanger

    Late Dated 1940 RZM & MM

    Late Dated 1940 RZM & MM Large Diamond

    Late RZM Dated 1941

    Late RZM Dated 1942 "Over-The-Shoulder" squrriel

    Late RZM 1942 RZM & MM

    M7/67 Gottlieb Hammesfahr, Solingen-Foche

    Transitional RZM & MM
    Small diamond with Motto

    M7/68 Tigerwerk Lauterjung & Co., Solingen

    Transitional MM with Motto
    Leather Hanger stamped LFS

    Transitional period, with both marker's logo and RZM.


    M7/71 Herm. Hahn, Solingen-Wald

    Early MM with Motto (HERMANN- HAHN SOLINGEN-WALD, GES,GESCH)
    Small Diamond


    RZM 7/72 Karl Rob. Kaldenbach, Solingen-Grafrath

    Late RZM piece, aluminum alloy construction.

    Late RZM dated 1939 on ricasso rzm on blade (no scabbard)

    Late RZM (no scabbard)

    M7/74 Friedrich Aug. Schmitz, Solingen

    Early MM with Motto
    Small Diamond, Steel

    M7/75 Böker & Co. Solingen

    Transitional RZM & MM
    Magnetic Plating, Non Magnetic Rivets Black Leather Hanger


    M7/80 Gustav C. Spitzer, Solingen


    Late RZM Dated 39
    Magnetic rivets non magnetic plating.

    Late RZM Dated 39 (note not 1939)

    M7/81 Karl Tiegel, Riemberg

    Transitional MM & RZM dated 1939
    (MM on Ricasso)


    M7/83 Richard Pluemacher Sohn, Solingen

    Late RZM with Triangle containg !


    M7/112 Carl Wüsthof-Gladiatorwerk, Solingen

    Early MM with Motto, (GES,GESCHUTZT )
    Small Diamond 22mm

    Early MM (GES,GESCHUTZT )
    Motto worn off

    Early MM with Motto
    Small Diamond, Brown Leather Hanger

    M7/118 Jacobs & Co. Solingen

    Late RZM on ricasso

    Unmarked (worn away)

    Late Non Magnetic Plating (0% left) Magnetic Rivets Black Hanger

    No RZM attributed

    Gebr. Lutzenkirchen, Solingen

    Early with Motto
    Magnetic plated fittings, Black leather hanger


    E.PACK & SOHNE SOLINGEN GES,GESCH

    Early Small Diamond with Motto

    Early (No Motto-worn)
    Small Diamond 22mm

    Early With Motto Eagle Hilt
    Small Diamond, Nut & Bolt style pins/rivets Riccasso


    GEBR.BELL,SOLINGEN

    Early with Motto
    Small Diamond 22mm

    Louper Solingen Flamme (with logo)

    Early (no more info)

    Early MM with Motto

    Early MM with Motto Large Diamond
    Last edited by evilmike; 11-11-2008, 02:54 PM.

    #2
    Great idea, Mike!!!


    M7/68 Tigerwerk Lauterjung & Co., Solingen
    Transitional period, with both marker's logo and RZM.

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      #3
      M7/34 Rudolf C. Jacobs, Solingen-Grafrath

      Late RZM
      Non Mag plating, Magnetic Rivets. Black Leather Hanger


      i will construct the list and post it as the list hopefully grows. its not that a silly idea is it

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        #4
        M7/40 Hartkopf & Co. Solingen

        Transitional/late RZM & MM
        Non Magnetic plating, Magnetic Rivets and a Black Leather hanger

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          #5
          My HJs

          Here are the details on my HJs:


          RZM 7/14 P.D.LUNESCHLOSS

          Transitional 1936, heavy cast iron construction with motto.
          LFS Marked darker brown leather hanger.

          Link: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=241234


          and


          RZM 7/72 Karl Rob. Kaldenbach, Solingen-Grafrath

          RZM piece, aluminum alloy construction.

          Link: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=230031


          JAN
          Last edited by jancz3rt; 10-31-2007, 03:45 PM.
          Collecting TR Dress Bayos.

          My Collection

          Open to offers of KS98 dress bayonets, fire bayonets and pioneer dress bayonets.

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            #6
            Thanks Jan!! ill add them to my list and post the updated one when we get a few more

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              #7
              .

              Here is my add to the list.

              M7/11 K. & Co Solingen MM and RZM and dated 1937, with motto on the blade. Magnetic plating, and Non Mag rivets. Black hanger with LS marking.

              Best regards
              Claus

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                #8
                thanks

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                  #9
                  Mine:

                  Early pre RZM example by "Gebr. Lutzenkirchen, Solingen".
                  Motto on blade
                  Magnetic plated fittings
                  Black leather hanger

                  Cheers, Ade.
                  Attached Files

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                    #10
                    thanks for posting Ade, i cant find a RZM number that relates to these, so i guess maybe they stopped producing or remain an unknown code, ive seen this logo before, but googling the manufacturer name hasnt turned up anything. Looks like you may have a scarce maker there Ade.

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                      #11
                      and the postmans been

                      RZM M7/66 Carl Eickhorn

                      Dated 1940 RZM & MM
                      Non Mag Plating, Mag Rivets, Black Leather Hanger

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                        #12
                        ive included all addittions so far into my original post, to stop things getting too complicated i will attempt to come up with a cunning plan to show off the data... answers on a postcard if you please

                        Ive also just read that there was an estimated 20 million HJ knives produced should be enough to go round then

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                          #13
                          M7/7.

                          Late with Plastic strap and hanger and of course, no motto.

                          John Pepera
                          peppers1@ameritech.net
                          Attached Files

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                            #14
                            Excelent condition.
                            Attached Files

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                              #15
                              Except for the broken strap.
                              Attached Files

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