Opferring elsass

[steiner68]

Hello

just received the badge on the right.

More "heavy" than the badge on the left.

2 versions ?

Regards

[Reinhard2]

Both seem to be okay !? They are examples from the Redo hoard but regarding all the SA sports badges in the market, I get doubts if someone isn't reproducing all the badges from Redo. The attributed/bought Opferring badges were painted.

[schoenwurf]

Both seem to be okay !? They are examples from the Redo hoard but regarding all the SA sports badges in the market, I get doubts if someone isn't reproducing all the badges from Redo. The attributed/bought Opferring badges were painted.

I have to disagree on your last statement : The Opferring Elsass badges were NOT painted

[Reinhard2]

They were painted ! That's why they are also shown in colour on the cover from the meeting booklet from Strassbourg etc.

[schoenwurf]

Are you sure ?

Opferring Kreistag Weissenburg 43.jpg

[schoenwurf]

All the Opferring Elsass badges we see (attributed or not) are in zinc NOT painted. In the last 20 years I only saw 1 Opferring Elsass badge painted - most likely privately painted to look like a NSDAP Parteiabzeichen.
If needed another proof is that on ALL the booklets and posters related to the different Kreistage in Alsace (in Kolmar, Rappoltsweiler, Strassburg, Hagenau, Weissenburg, Gebweiler, Zabern, Mülhausen...) the badge is represented as NOT painted.
If the Opferring badge would have been painted then why was it always represented as not painted ? It makes no sense.


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[Reinhard2]

Nice collection ! Nevertheless, the early ones were painted.

[RonR]

Would be a great contribution to this thread if a painted example could be posted...

[Don Scowen]

Rather a small image I'm afraid but here is the one shown in Hüsken's catalogue which I assume is from Reinhard's collection?
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[schoenwurf]

Here is one from my collection

[Zirnhelt]

Thats the first one I've seen painted thanks for showing. Why would they have stopped painting them?

[schoenwurf]

Reinhard, just a few questions that come into my mind :
- Do you have any material evidence to support your assertion that the early badges were actually painted ?
- How « early » should it be ? Because on the booklet related to the Kreistag Zabern from October 1942 the Opferring badge is already shown as not painted.
- You mentioned that one proof would be that the Opferring Elsass badges « are shown in color on the cover of the meeting booklet from Strasbourg etc. ». Could you post a copy of this cover showing a painted badge ? That would be very helpful.
- I know about 2 Opferring sets that come directly from a private family. The man was a true national socialist and subscribed to the Opferring Wertmarke from 1940 to December 1944 (!) so that a 2nd Opferring member card had to be issued. He had 2 Opferring badges but none of them was painted ...

[schoenwurf]

The photo disappeared so I post my painted Opferring Elsass badge again

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[steiner68]

Nice one

[FrenchVolunteer]

Hi,

many producers of the grey badge exist.

I called Francis Catella, who is especially interested by the political collaboration in Alsace during the Annexion, and he never heard of painted models.

It is possible that members hand painted their badge, or that crooks decided to paint some badges after the war to propose those "rare" models for an inflated price.

An interesting investigation to work on.

See You

Vince