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    Spanien Kreuz for review

    Hello,

    What do you think about this Silver Spanien Kreuz?
    It might be an Otto Schickle.

    Good or bad?

    Thanks,
    Ron
    Attached Files

    #2
    IMO it is original
    Carlo
    Erel's Hunter
    looking for Pilot LW

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      #3
      Originally posted by werner View Post
      ... It might be an Otto Schickle.
      Thanks,
      Ron
      Hi Ron
      In my opinion, it can't. IMO it's fake
      Jacek

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        #4
        Center of the back looks very strange ..


        Jos

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          #5
          it reminds me of a Schickle or Petz & Lorenz design almost.

          I have no problem with the center of the reverse being indented like that and have seen this feature on other period originals.

          William Kramer
          To view my museum and shop: https://wehrmacht-militaria.com/

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            #6
            Hi William
            You can show
            KR
            Jacek

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              #7
              Originally posted by e-maus View Post
              Hi William
              You can show
              KR
              Jacek
              there's some P&L with a similar reverse feature in this thread:

              http://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/s...d.php?t=368823

              the catch on the one that started the thread is also very similar but the obverse is different for me. I still think it stands a chance..

              Here is a Schickle with a similar reverse hinge and catch assembly and almost looks like it has an indented reverse center feature like the cross which started this thead:

              http://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/s...d.php?t=102117

              William Kramer


              Last edited by all1knew; 11-15-2019, 07:55 PM.
              To view my museum and shop: https://wehrmacht-militaria.com/

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                #8
                I have no knowledge of this award, although I can say that this looks great from the front and not great from the back.

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                  #9
                  I think it is a good Otto Schickle. I've seen the backs o f these in different variations that I believe is due to the pressure exerted during the stamping process. This one just looks like it got an extra few lbs of pressure.


                  This one got some extra lbs but not as much.
                  Attached Files
                  Regards,

                  Brian
                  sigpic

                  Stumpf, Werner (15 March 1917 – 13 October 1942)
                  Frank, Rudolf

                  Looking for photos, documents.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by all1knew View Post
                    there's some P&L with a similar reverse feature in this thread:
                    William Kramer
                    I was wrong. Thanks, very appreciated
                    Jacek

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                      #11
                      Thank you guys.
                      I will forward this information to the owner.

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                        #12
                        I believe the P&L crosses have more of a square imprint, this looks round on the ones I am familiar with.
                        Regards,

                        Brian
                        sigpic

                        Stumpf, Werner (15 March 1917 – 13 October 1942)
                        Frank, Rudolf

                        Looking for photos, documents.

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