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    ek 1 clasp, maker??

    Odd ek1 clasp.
    Haven't seen this pattern before, but it is very detailed.
    Looks like the claps on the L/50 combo that was discussed a while ago, but there are some differences as well.

    Does anyone have a similar clasp in the collection, or a clue on the maker ??
    Clasp appears to be unworn and sits in a very nice case
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    #2
    Very interesting Ben!
    The eagle's feet, and the date bar resemble an Eugen Schmidhäußler.
    Ralph.
    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stm./Pz.Erz.Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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      #3
      Ralph, that is what I thought at first.
      It was on the seller's side of the table when I first spotted it..


      Here's the Godet combo


      http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...t=L%2F50+combo

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        #4
        Never seen this type before. IMO it looks attractive and believable with a very nice eagle head.


        Regards, Wim
        Freedom is not for Free

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          #5
          New for me as well but there are many similarities to the clasp of the L/50 combo.

          The construction is very good and there is a lot of detail in the clasp.
          Very nicely done, good quality


          It comes with an old Niemann COA.
          Not that that COA is a guarantee that it's original but it's from 2004...

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            #6
            Spange

            That one definitely is a interesting piece that has striking similarities to a Zimmermann from the obverse. The pin is different from the one and only example that I’ve seen which is the one in Dietrich’s book. I’d be curious to see what Jim thinks about it. If original, it’s very, very, rare bird because you don’t see them at all.

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              #7
              Now that's an interesting find!
              Great detailed clasp. Would love to read more opinions from the
              usual suspects.

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                #8
                I have little experience with TR spangen but I found the discussion interesting
                especially the possible connection to Zimmerman. In the linked thread, the
                Godet cross is marked "Silber" . I have never seen that mark on a Godet
                however Zimmerman made 1914 Ek1 can be found marked that way.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by gregM View Post
                  I have little experience with TR spangen but I found the discussion interesting
                  especially the possible connection to Zimmerman. In the linked thread, the
                  Godet cross is marked "Silber" . I have never seen that mark on a Godet
                  however Zimmerman made 1914 Ek1 can be found marked that way.
                  Indeed

                  Here is a Silber marked Zimmermann blue cored EK I 1914:

                  EK I WWI Zimmermann (7).jpg

                  EK I WWI Zimmermann (1).jpg
                  Regards,
                  Green

                  https://ironcross-history.nl/

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by gregM View Post
                    I have little experience with TR spangen but I found the discussion interesting
                    especially the possible connection to Zimmerman. In the linked thread, the
                    Godet cross is marked "Silber" . I have never seen that mark on a Godet
                    however Zimmerman made 1914 Ek1 can be found marked that way.
                    That means the cooperation between Godet and Zimmerman already existed in ww1...

                    Nice cross Green!!

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                      #11
                      Hi Ben,

                      Very nice and very rare piece.

                      What differences do you see between this piece and the one on the Combo?
                      Best regards,
                      Streptile

                      Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                        #12
                        Hi Trevor,

                        the major differences are the top of the head and the beak.
                        That may have been caused by the hand-finishing.

                        The other minor differences are in the 1939.
                        But that may be caused by the patina on the combo, and the lightning.

                        Apart from that they are pretty much the same.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by ben bijker View Post
                          Hi Trevor,

                          the major differences are the top of the head and the beak.
                          That may have been caused by the hand-finishing.

                          The other minor differences are in the 1939.
                          But that may be caused by the patina on the combo, and the lightning.

                          Apart from that they are pretty much the same.
                          I have seen two of this bird before, both on Combos. The other is in Dietrich's EK1 book. I would have to look more closely this evening when I have my files and library in front of me, but by memory, yours matches the other two. I think the minor differences are down to finish and mostly lighting and angle. I think it's a very nice Zimmermann SP1, probably made for retail by Gebr. Godet.
                          Best regards,
                          Streptile

                          Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                            #14
                            If you look at the SP2 from the Zimmermann factory -- none of which have surfaced finished, to my knowledge -- it is very obviously the same designer as yours.

                            IMG_6895.jpg
                            Best regards,
                            Streptile

                            Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ben bijker View Post
                              That means the cooperation between Godet and Zimmerman already existed in ww1.
                              I don't think this is accurate. The collaboration between CF Zimmermann and Gebr. Godet began during the 1930s.
                              Best regards,
                              Streptile

                              Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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