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    #46
    Wow

    Thx for your help guys! I identified 3 of my EK1s!

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      #47
      New to EKII's

      Hi guys, i'm new to collecting the EKII and have many questions as i've been focusing on documents. Here are my questions: What does B-type mean? How can you identify a B.H Mayer EKII unmarked variant from a Deschler & Sohn EKII unmarked variant? How do you identify a schinkel form EKII (is it from the material used? When i see photos of schinkel form EKII's to other variants, they look quite similar. I thought it had to do with the size but i must be wrong). What does Core A, B, C mean? What does LDO mean?
      Last edited by alexjwelirang; 02-20-2015, 12:32 PM.

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        #48
        Hi Trevor, I have an EK2 marked 925 on the ring, it was in the Gordon Williamson Book a few years ago, on page 83 under Ed Anderson's name, which I got from him a few years ago, do we know where this one fits in yet? or is it the silver content?


        Best
        Greg

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          #49
          Originally posted by realone View Post
          Hi Trevor, I have an EK2 marked 925 on the ring, it was in the Gordon Williamson Book a few years ago, on page 83 under Ed Anderson's name, which I got from him a few years ago, do we know where this one fits in yet? or is it the silver content?


          Best
          Greg
          Hi.I think the highest maker No. is 138 Julius Maurer.Best regards Wolfgang.

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            #50
            Could be a silver content mark?
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            Looking for a tunic removed SS-rune tab and tunic removed Odal-rune tab.



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              #51
              Thanks guys, I think its the silver content also,,only one I have ever seen, does anyone else have one to show? Trevor your thoughts?

              Greg

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                #52
                Hey Greg,

                I know 925 as a silver marking on Imperial EK2 rings. It signifies sterling silver, and sterling silver frames are pretty easy to identify in-hand. They tarnish deeply and evenly. I've never seen that mark on a 1939 EK so I'd guess it's a replaced ring but without pics it's hard to say for sure.
                Best regards,
                Streptile

                Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                  #53
                  Nice list I also want to start collecting ek2 but there are so many for sale.

                  Which makers are rare and should i buy when i see them?

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                    #54
                    Deschler & Sohn 1
                    B-Type/Prototype
                    Round-3 "Thick Frame" variant
                    Round-3 "Deschler Frame" variant
                    unmarked
                    marked "1"

                    C.E. Juncker 2
                    WFS frame (non-mag. WFS core)
                    WFS frame (mag. WFS core)
                    crunch-bead frame (non-mag. WFS core)
                    crunch bead frame (mag., Juncker core) aka "full Juncker"
                    crunch bead frame (mag., W&L core)
                    crunch bead frame (mag., L/12 marked) (1)
                    common L/12 type frame (unmarked)
                    common L/12 type frame (marked L/12)

                    Wilhelm Deumer 3
                    Schinkel (mag.)
                    Schinkel (non-mag.)
                    unmarked
                    marked 3
                    marked L/11

                    Steinhauer & Lück 4
                    unmarked
                    marked 4
                    marked L/16
                    marked 4 and L/16


                    Fritz Zimmermann 6
                    thin beading frame unmarked, slim date numerals core
                    thin beading frame marked 6.
                    fat beading frame marked 6.

                    Paul Meybauer 7
                    Schinkel glossy paint
                    Schinkel matte paint
                    unmarked
                    marked 7
                    marked L/13
                    marked 7 and L/13

                    Grossmann & Co. 11
                    unmarked
                    marked 11

                    Frank & Reif 12
                    Ubergroße (unmarked)
                    Ubergroße "Little Brother" (unmarked)

                    Gustav Brehmer 13
                    unmarked
                    marked 13

                    L. Christian Lauer 14
                    unmarked
                    marked 14



                    Friedrich Orth 15
                    Unmarked
                    marked 15

                    Alois Rettenmaier 16
                    unmarked
                    marked 16

                    E. Ferd Weidmann 19
                    unmarked
                    marked 19

                    Gebrüder Godet 21
                    unmarked early frame type
                    unmarked later frame type
                    marked 21 later frame type

                    Boerger & Co. 22
                    unmarked
                    marked 22

                    Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Heeresbedarf in der Graveur- und Ziselierinnung 23
                    unmarked
                    marked 23 with 23 core
                    marked 23 Meybauer core

                    Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer Plakettenhersteller 24
                    unmarked
                    unmarked with ancillary mark on jumping: (list needed)
                    marked 24
                    marked 24 with ancillary mark on jumping: (list needed)


                    Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-, Gold- und Silberschemiedeinnungen 25
                    unmarked
                    marked 25

                    B.H. Mayer
                    Schinkel (unmarked) (1)
                    unmarked (Schinkel core/LDO frame) (1)
                    unmarked (regular Mayer core/LDO frame) (1)
                    marked L/18

                    Anton Schenkl's Nachf. (Maria Schenkl) 27
                    unmarked with # frame
                    marked 27 with # frame
                    marked 27 with standard frame

                    F.W. Assmann & Söhne 35
                    Schinkel (non-mag)
                    Schinkel (mag)

                    Berg & Nolte 40
                    unmarked
                    marked 40

                    Jakob Bengel 44
                    unmarked
                    marked 44



                    Gottlieb & Wagner 52
                    unmarked
                    marked 52

                    J.E. Hammer & Söhne 55
                    unmarked
                    marked 55

                    Robert Hauschild 56
                    unmarked
                    marked 56 core 1
                    marked 56 core 2

                    Katz & Deyhle 60
                    unmarked
                    marked 60

                    Klein & Quenzer A.G. 65
                    unmarked core 1
                    marked 65 core 1
                    marked 65 core 2
                    marked 65 core 3
                    marked 65 core 4
                    marked 65 core 5

                    Friedrich Keller 66
                    marked 66

                    75 (Unknown Maker)
                    unmarked
                    marked 75

                    Ernst L. Müller 76
                    unmarked
                    marked 76

                    Paulmann & Crone 86
                    unmarked (non-mag)
                    unmarked (mag)

                    Richard Simm & Söhne 93
                    marked 93

                    Rudolf Souval 98
                    unmarked
                    marked 98
                    marked L/58

                    Rudolf Wächtler & Lange 100
                    unmarked
                    marked 100
                    marked L55

                    Brüder Schneider 106
                    marked 106

                    Walter & Henlein 109
                    unmarked

                    Hermann Aurich 113
                    Unmarked
                    marked 113

                    Funke & Brunninghaus 116
                    unmarked
                    marked L/56

                    Franz Petzl 120
                    unmarked
                    marked 120

                    J.J. Stahl 122
                    marked 122

                    Beck, Hassinger & Co. 123
                    marked 123
                    marked [123]

                    Eugen Gauss 125
                    marked 125

                    Moritz Hausch A.G. 127
                    unmarked (1)(2)

                    S. Jablonski G.m.b.H. 128
                    marked 128

                    Franz Reischauer 132
                    marked 132

                    J.H. Werner 137
                    marked 137


                    Julius Maurer 138
                    marked 138

                    Schauerte & Hohfeld 140
                    Schinkel (non-mag)
                    Schinkel (mag)
                    unmarked
                    marked L/54

                    Otto Schickle L/15
                    Schinkel one-piece (mag)
                    Schinkel one-piece (non-mag)
                    unmarked (mag.)
                    unmarked (non-mag.)
                    marked L/15 (mag.)
                    marked L/15 (non-mag.)

                    Petz & Lorenz (no number known)
                    one-piece unmarked

                    Unknown Makers
                    "Long Flaw" "Lug variant." Two cores known: "Small RK core" and "Juncker WFS" core.
                    "Lug" unmarked. Three core types known: typical lug core "small RK" core, and "Juncker WFS" core.
                    "Lug" marked Z
                    "Small Frame" uses Juncker's "WFS core" but has a different frame.
                    Round-3 beveled-edge frame
                    Round-3 swas-on-pedestal, pebbled core surface (possible Deschler)
                    Straight-9 Schinkel
                    Unknown Maker Schinkel
                    "Odd Date"
                    "8" variant, this cross is not manufactured by maker 8, it just doesn't have another name.
                    "Straight-Arm" variant
                    Spanish-made (various types)

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