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    #16
    Thanks guys. Matt, that sounds like a lot of work

    Richard, I have never seen an EK2 by Wilh. Hammesfahr, Soligen. Can you provide a link to a thread in which one is shown please?
    Best regards,
    Streptile

    Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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      #17
      Originally posted by streptile View Post
      Thanks guys. Matt, that sounds like a lot of work

      Richard, I have never seen an EK2 by Wilh. Hammesfahr, Soligen. Can you provide a link to a thread in which one is shown please?
      Sure...
      http://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/s...ght=hammesfahr

      They certainly made them but whether this is the cross is another matter. However, the cross is mint and in the wrapping tissue and hasn't been identified to another maker (that I know of) so chances are...?
      Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
      Decorations of Germany

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        #18
        Pinned again for you referencing pleasure.
        George

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          #19
          Hi "STREPTILE",

          Bravo for your list, she help me well.

          I have an EK2 marked "333".

          I have this award since 45 years, & I see this marking in 5-6 occasions in my country, but I find this marking nowhere .

          Good or Fake ?

          Thanks for reply.
          Regards.
          Carfin.

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            #20
            333 mm

            Hello, for me the 333 punched pieces fakes
            Greeting fledermaus1945

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              #21
              Originally posted by carfin lewys View Post
              Hi "STREPTILE",
              Bravo for your list, she help me well.
              Thank you.

              I will put some time and effort into updating this list with links and additions over the coming holiday.

              I agree that the "333" EKs are fakes. If you've had yours for 45 years, they are older then I thought. But they are fakes nonetheless.
              Best regards,
              Streptile

              Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                #22
                Hi All,

                Thanks & Merry Christmas.

                Regards.
                Carfin.

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                  #23
                  Great list Streptile!!

                  Thanks from the Ek Fanatic

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                    #24
                    Have we been able to start a thread with the photos? This is such a good tool BTW thanks to all for the work that's gone in so far.
                    Why is patience a virtue, why can't hurry the f*** up be a virtue.

                    Looking for a Souval RK KvK without swords (800 marked) and a 57er Luftschutz medal, 1st Class

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                      #25

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                        #26
                        I've tried to incorporate all the changes I've noted in the last months -- new variants, marks, research, etc. If I've forgotten something, or if you notice an error or omission, please post here or PM me as always.

                        More links to photos to come as time permits.

                        Current as of 20 September 2012

                        Updates: Moved B-Type to Deschler (from unknown) as research has convinced me beyond doubt they are the maker; added Juncker core variant; added S&L mark variant; added Meybauer mark variant; added "24" mark variant; added Mayer variants; reclassified "Assmann Schinkels" as "L/54 or Assmann Schinkels"; added Schickle Schinkel mag and non-mag variants; added a handful of linked photos.

                        Deschler & Sohn 1

                        C.E. Juncker 2
                        • WFS frame (non-mag. WFS core)
                        • WFS frame (mag. WFS core)
                        • crunch-bead frame (non-mag. WFS core)
                        • crunch bead frame (mag., Juncker core) aka "full Juncker"
                        • crunch bead frame (mag., W&L core)
                        • crunch bead frame (mag., L/12 marked) (1)
                        • common L/12 type frame (marked L/12)
                        • long flaw frame (mag., "small RK" core)
                        • small frame


                        Wilhelm Deumer 3
                        • Schinkel (mag.)
                        • Schinkel (non-mag.)
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 3
                        • marked L/11


                        Steinhauer & Lück 4
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 4
                        • marked L/16
                        • marked 4 and L/16


                        Fritz Zimmermann 6
                        • thin beading frame unmarked, slim date numerals core
                        • thin beading frame marked 6.
                        • fat beading frame marked 6.


                        Paul Meybauer 7
                        • Schinkel glossy paint
                        • Schinkel matte paint
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 7
                        • marked L/13
                        • marked 7 and L/13


                        Grossmann & Co. 11
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 11


                        Frank & Reif 12
                        • Ubergroße (unmarked)
                        • Ubergroße "Little Brother" (unmarked)


                        Gustav Brehmer 13
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 13


                        L. Christian Lauer 14
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 14


                        Friedrich Orth 15
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 15


                        Alois Rettenmaier 16
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 16


                        E. Ferd Weidmann 19
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 19


                        Gebrüder Godet 21
                        • unmarked early frame type
                        • marked 21


                        Boerger & Co. 22
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 22


                        Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Heeresbedarf in der Graveur- und Ziselierinnung 23
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 23 with 23 core
                        • marked 23 Meybauer core


                        Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer Plakettenhersteller 24
                        • unmarked
                        • unmarked with ancillary mark on jumping: (list needed)
                        • marked 24
                        • marked 24 with ancillary mark on jumping: (list needed)


                        Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-, Gold- und Silberschemiedeinnungen 25
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 25


                        B.H. Mayer
                        • unmarked (early core) (1)
                        • unmarked (regular Mayer core) (1)
                        • marked L/18


                        Anton Schenkl's Nachf. (Maria Schenkl) 27
                        • unmarked with # frame
                        • marked 27 with # frame
                        • marked 27 with standard frame


                        F.W. Assmann & Söhne 35
                        • Schinkel (non-mag) (this cross may also be L/54)
                        • Schinkel (mag) (this cross may also be L/54)


                        Berg & Nolte 40
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 40


                        Jakob Bengel 44
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 44


                        Gottlieb & Wagner 52
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 52


                        J.E. Hammer & Söhne
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 55


                        Robert Hauschild 56
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 56 core A (1)
                        • marked 56 core B (1o,1r)


                        Katz & Deyhle 60
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 60


                        Klein & Quenzer A.G. 65
                        • unmarked core A
                        • marked 65 core A
                        • marked 65 core B
                        • marked 65 core C


                        Friedrich Keller 66
                        • marked 66


                        75 (Unknown Maker)
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 75


                        Ernst L. Müller 76
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 76


                        Paulmann & Crone 86
                        • unmarked (non-mag)
                        • unmarked (mag)


                        Richard Simm & Söhne 93
                        • marked 93


                        Rudolf Souval 98
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 98
                        • marked L/58


                        Rudolf Wächtler & Lange 100
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 100
                        • marked L55


                        Brüder Schneider 106
                        • marked 106


                        Walter & Henlein 109
                        • unmarked


                        Hermann Aurich 113
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 113


                        Funke & Brunninghaus 116
                        • unmarked
                        • marked L/56


                        Franz Petzl 120
                        • unmarked
                        • marked 120


                        J.J. Stahl 122
                        • marked 122


                        Beck, Hassinger & Co. 123
                        • marked 123
                        • marked [123]


                        Eugen Gauss 125
                        • marked 125


                        Moritz Hausch A.G. 127
                        • unmarked (1)(2)


                        S. Jablonski G.m.b.H. 128
                        • marked 128


                        Franz Reischauer 132
                        • marked 132


                        J.H. Werner 137
                        • marked 137


                        Julius Maurer 138
                        • marked 138


                        Schauerte & Hohfeld 140
                        • Schinkel (non-mag) (this cross may also be by Assmann)
                        • Schinkel (mag) (this cross may also be by Assmann)
                        • unmarked
                        • marked L/54


                        Otto Schickle L/15
                        • Schinkel one-piece (mag)
                        • Schinkel one-piece (non-mag)
                        • unmarked (mag.)
                        • unmarked (non-mag.)
                        • marked L/15 (mag.)
                        • marked L/15 (non-mag.)


                        Petz & Lorenz (no number known)
                        • one-piece unmarked


                        Unknown Makers
                        • Round-3 thick
                        • Round-3 beveled
                        • Round-3 swas-on-pedestal, pebbled core surface
                        • Straight-9 Schinkel
                        • "Lug" variant (1)
                        • "Odd Date" variant
                        • "8" variant (1)(2)
                        • "straight-arm" variant (1)
                        • Spanish-made (various types)
                        Best regards,
                        Streptile

                        Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                          #27
                          Moved Unknown Maker Schinkel to the bottom section on unknowns, as it was mistakenly included in Deschler.

                          More links to photos to come as time permits.

                          Current as of 17 Feb 2013

                          Deschler & Sohn 1

                          C.E. Juncker 2
                          • WFS frame (non-mag. WFS core)
                          • WFS frame (mag. WFS core)
                          • crunch-bead frame (non-mag. WFS core)
                          • crunch bead frame (mag., Juncker core) aka "full Juncker"
                          • crunch bead frame (mag., W&L core)
                          • crunch bead frame (mag., L/12 marked) (1)
                          • common L/12 type frame (marked L/12)
                          • long flaw frame (mag., "small RK" core)
                          • small frame


                          Wilhelm Deumer 3
                          • Schinkel (mag.)
                          • Schinkel (non-mag.)
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 3
                          • marked L/11


                          Steinhauer & Lück 4
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 4
                          • marked L/16
                          • marked 4 and L/16


                          Fritz Zimmermann 6
                          • thin beading frame unmarked, slim date numerals core
                          • thin beading frame marked 6.
                          • fat beading frame marked 6.


                          Paul Meybauer 7
                          • Schinkel glossy paint
                          • Schinkel matte paint
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 7
                          • marked L/13
                          • marked 7 and L/13


                          Grossmann & Co. 11
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 11


                          Frank & Reif 12
                          • Ubergroße (unmarked)
                          • Ubergroße "Little Brother" (unmarked)


                          Gustav Brehmer 13
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 13


                          L. Christian Lauer 14
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 14


                          Friedrich Orth 15
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 15


                          Alois Rettenmaier 16
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 16


                          E. Ferd Weidmann 19
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 19


                          Gebrüder Godet 21
                          • unmarked early frame type
                          • marked 21


                          Boerger & Co. 22
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 22


                          Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Heeresbedarf in der Graveur- und Ziselierinnung 23
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 23 with 23 core
                          • marked 23 Meybauer core


                          Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer Plakettenhersteller 24
                          • unmarked
                          • unmarked with ancillary mark on jumping: (list needed)
                          • marked 24
                          • marked 24 with ancillary mark on jumping: (list needed)


                          Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-, Gold- und Silberschemiedeinnungen 25
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 25


                          B.H. Mayer
                          • unmarked (early core) (1)
                          • unmarked (regular Mayer core) (1)
                          • marked L/18


                          Anton Schenkl's Nachf. (Maria Schenkl) 27
                          • unmarked with # frame
                          • marked 27 with # frame
                          • marked 27 with standard frame


                          F.W. Assmann & Söhne 35
                          • Schinkel (non-mag) (this cross may also be L/54)
                          • Schinkel (mag) (this cross may also be L/54)


                          Berg & Nolte 40
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 40


                          Jakob Bengel 44
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 44


                          Gottlieb & Wagner 52
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 52


                          J.E. Hammer & Söhne
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 55


                          Robert Hauschild 56
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 56 core A (1)
                          • marked 56 core B (1o,1r)


                          Katz & Deyhle 60
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 60


                          Klein & Quenzer A.G. 65
                          • unmarked core A
                          • marked 65 core A
                          • marked 65 core B
                          • marked 65 core C


                          Friedrich Keller 66
                          • marked 66


                          75 (Unknown Maker)
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 75


                          Ernst L. Müller 76
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 76


                          Paulmann & Crone 86
                          • unmarked (non-mag)
                          • unmarked (mag)


                          Richard Simm & Söhne 93
                          • marked 93


                          Rudolf Souval 98
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 98
                          • marked L/58


                          Rudolf Wächtler & Lange 100
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 100
                          • marked L55


                          Brüder Schneider 106
                          • marked 106


                          Walter & Henlein 109
                          • unmarked


                          Hermann Aurich 113
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 113


                          Funke & Brunninghaus 116
                          • unmarked
                          • marked L/56


                          Franz Petzl 120
                          • unmarked
                          • marked 120


                          J.J. Stahl 122
                          • marked 122


                          Beck, Hassinger & Co. 123
                          • marked 123
                          • marked [123]


                          Eugen Gauss 125
                          • marked 125


                          Moritz Hausch A.G. 127
                          • unmarked (1)(2)


                          S. Jablonski G.m.b.H. 128
                          • marked 128


                          Franz Reischauer 132
                          • marked 132


                          J.H. Werner 137
                          • marked 137


                          Julius Maurer 138
                          • marked 138


                          Schauerte & Hohfeld 140
                          • Schinkel (non-mag) (this cross may also be by Assmann)
                          • Schinkel (mag) (this cross may also be by Assmann)
                          • unmarked
                          • marked L/54


                          Otto Schickle L/15
                          • Schinkel one-piece (mag)
                          • Schinkel one-piece (non-mag)
                          • unmarked (mag.)
                          • unmarked (non-mag.)
                          • marked L/15 (mag.)
                          • marked L/15 (non-mag.)


                          Petz & Lorenz (no number known)
                          • one-piece unmarked


                          Unknown Makers
                          • Round-3 thick
                          • Round-3 beveled
                          • Round-3 swas-on-pedestal, pebbled core surface
                          • Straight-9 Schinkel
                          • Unknown Maker Schinkel (1)(2)(3)(4)(5)
                          • "Lug" variant (1)
                          • "Odd Date" variant
                          • "8" variant (1)(2)
                          • "Straight-Arm" variant (1)
                          • Spanish-made (various types)
                          Best regards,
                          Streptile

                          Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                            #28
                            Time to update this list. Apart from a few clarifications in the existing text, I am adding two new EK2 variants: 1) the very interesting (to me) Mayer Schinkel. Really, this type needs a dedicated thread or something, but I only know of one type at this moment. Also I'm adding 2) a "Lug" variant marked with a Z or a 2. Some great research by member Stefan K. suggests this really may be a Juncker mark, also very interesting news.

                            Please let me know if something is missing from this list!

                            More links to photos to come as time permits.

                            Current as of 17 Feb 2013

                            Deschler & Sohn 1

                            C.E. Juncker 2
                            • WFS frame (non-mag. WFS core)
                            • WFS frame (mag. WFS core)
                            • crunch-bead frame (non-mag. WFS core)
                            • crunch bead frame (mag., Juncker core) aka "full Juncker"
                            • crunch bead frame (mag., W&L core)
                            • crunch bead frame (mag., L/12 marked) (1)
                            • common L/12 type frame (marked L/12)
                            • long flaw frame (mag., "small RK" core)
                            • small frame


                            Wilhelm Deumer 3
                            • Schinkel (mag.)
                            • Schinkel (non-mag.)
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 3
                            • marked L/11


                            Steinhauer & Lück 4
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 4
                            • marked L/16
                            • marked 4 and L/16


                            Fritz Zimmermann 6
                            • thin beading frame unmarked, slim date numerals core
                            • thin beading frame marked 6.
                            • fat beading frame marked 6.


                            Paul Meybauer 7
                            • Schinkel glossy paint
                            • Schinkel matte paint
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 7
                            • marked L/13
                            • marked 7 and L/13


                            Grossmann & Co. 11
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 11


                            Frank & Reif 12
                            • Ubergroße (unmarked)
                            • Ubergroße "Little Brother" (unmarked)


                            Gustav Brehmer 13
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 13


                            L. Christian Lauer 14
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 14


                            Friedrich Orth 15
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 15


                            Alois Rettenmaier 16
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 16


                            E. Ferd Weidmann 19
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 19


                            Gebrüder Godet 21
                            • unmarked early frame type
                            • marked 21 later frame type


                            Boerger & Co. 22
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 22


                            Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Heeresbedarf in der Graveur- und Ziselierinnung 23
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 23 with 23 core
                            • marked 23 Meybauer core


                            Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer Plakettenhersteller 24
                            • unmarked
                            • unmarked with ancillary mark on jumping: (list needed)
                            • marked 24
                            • marked 24 with ancillary mark on jumping: (list needed)


                            Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-, Gold- und Silberschemiedeinnungen 25
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 25


                            B.H. Mayer
                            • Schinkel (unmarked) (1)
                            • unmarked (early core) (1)
                            • unmarked (regular Mayer core) (1)
                            • marked L/18


                            Anton Schenkl's Nachf. (Maria Schenkl) 27
                            • unmarked with # frame
                            • marked 27 with # frame
                            • marked 27 with standard frame


                            F.W. Assmann & Söhne 35
                            • Schinkel (non-mag) (this cross may also be L/54 or Friedrich Linden) (1)
                            • Schinkel (mag) (this cross may also be L/54 or Friedrich Linden)


                            Berg & Nolte 40
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 40


                            Jakob Bengel 44
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 44


                            Gottlieb & Wagner 52
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 52


                            J.E. Hammer & Söhne
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 55


                            Robert Hauschild 56
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 56 core A (1)
                            • marked 56 core B (1o,1r)


                            Katz & Deyhle 60
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 60


                            Klein & Quenzer A.G. 65
                            • unmarked core A
                            • marked 65 core A
                            • marked 65 core B
                            • marked 65 core C


                            Friedrich Keller 66
                            • marked 66


                            75 (Unknown Maker)
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 75


                            Ernst L. Müller 76
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 76


                            Paulmann & Crone 86
                            • unmarked (non-mag)
                            • unmarked (mag)


                            Richard Simm & Söhne 93
                            • marked 93


                            Rudolf Souval 98
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 98
                            • marked L/58


                            Rudolf Wächtler & Lange 100
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 100
                            • marked L55


                            Brüder Schneider 106
                            • marked 106


                            Walter & Henlein 109
                            • unmarked


                            Hermann Aurich 113
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 113


                            Funke & Brunninghaus 116
                            • unmarked
                            • marked L/56


                            Franz Petzl 120
                            • unmarked
                            • marked 120


                            J.J. Stahl 122
                            • marked 122


                            Beck, Hassinger & Co. 123
                            • marked 123
                            • marked [123]


                            Eugen Gauss 125
                            • marked 125


                            Moritz Hausch A.G. 127
                            • unmarked (1)(2)


                            S. Jablonski G.m.b.H. 128
                            • marked 128


                            Franz Reischauer 132
                            • marked 132


                            J.H. Werner 137
                            • marked 137


                            Julius Maurer 138
                            • marked 138


                            Schauerte & Hohfeld 140
                            • Schinkel (non-mag) (this cross may also be by Assmann or Friedrich Linden) (1)
                            • Schinkel (mag) (this cross may also be by Assmann or Friedrich Linden)
                            • unmarked
                            • marked L/54


                            Otto Schickle L/15
                            • Schinkel one-piece (mag)
                            • Schinkel one-piece (non-mag)
                            • unmarked (mag.)
                            • unmarked (non-mag.)
                            • marked L/15 (mag.)
                            • marked L/15 (non-mag.)


                            Petz & Lorenz (no number known)
                            • one-piece unmarked


                            Unknown Makers
                            • Round-3 thick
                            • Round-3 beveled
                            • Round-3 swas-on-pedestal, pebbled core surface
                            • Straight-9 Schinkel
                            • Unknown Maker Schinkel (1)(2)(3)(4)(5)
                            • "Lug" variant (1)
                            • "Lug" variant marked Z or 2
                            • "Odd Date" variant
                            • "8" variant (1)(2) NB: this cross is not necessarily manufactured by maker 8; it just doesn't have another name.
                            • "Straight-Arm" variant (1)
                            • Spanish-made (various types)
                            [/QUOTE]
                            Best regards,
                            Streptile

                            Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                              #29
                              Thank you, Trevor!
                              George

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                                #30
                                missing ek2 maker

                                Hersteller: 84 (Carl Poellath te Schrobenhausen)

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