list of spange-makers

[CMSgt]

L/53 Zinc

L/53 Zinc with four prongs centered top and bottom.

[CMSgt]

L/14

EKI spange L/14 Orth.

[CMSgt]

Update

Just realized the I left off

Petz & Lorenz
Screw back zinc
Screw back buntmetal
Pin back Buntmetal partial veins
Pin back Buntmetal without veins

[CMSgt]

Updated List A/O Sept 16 2014

Winkler just sold a 107 marked 2nd class Spange ... not sure if it is good though ... not mentioned in the list ???

Douglas

This is a fake and I informed him.

New updated list:

EKI SPANGES<O</O
<O</O
EK1EK1........
Early Style:<O</O

unmarked possibly JunckerPin Back
L/57 Boerger Pin Back & screw back
unmarked possibly Maybauer Pin Back <O
<O</O
Second Style:<O</O

L/10? DESCHLER(only seen the box)<O
L/11 DEUMERscrew back, PB, & L/11 marked 800
L/12 JUNCKERPin Back & Screw back
<OL/13 MEYBAUER
L/15 SCHICKLE Pin Back & Screw Back
<OL/16 S & L Buntmetal & Zinc <O
L/17 Hermann <OWernstein Pin Back <O
L/18 MAYER no-veins <O
long-veins
short veins
<OL/18 Schickle made
L/54 Schauerte
& Hohfeld Veins
L/53 HYMANN Pin Back
Screw back
L/56 FUNCKE Pin Back
L/57 Boerger Screw back Zinc single disc marked
Pin Back Zinc marked
Screw back BM two disc unmarked
Pin Back BM marked
unmarked unknown #1
<O
INTERMEDIATE
<O
unmarked Petz & Lorenz Pin Back BM <O
screw back Zinc <O

SPANGE<O
<OEK2
Early Style:

Juncker Thick Vein MARKED L/12
Thin Vein <O
unmarked Boerger 4 prong(corner) <O
4 prong (center) <O
4 prong (round)
2 prong
W/O tail feathers<O
unmarked Deumer<O
unmarked 'intermediate'
<Ounknown Maybauer <O
<O
Second Style:

PRINZEN:<O

Deumer two prongs
<Ofour prongs
unm L/15 two prong <O
four prong <O
L/16 TWO PRONG<O</O
FOUR PRONG
<Ounknown #2 <O

FULL SIZE:<O

L/11
L/11 small mark
<OJuncker Full vein (zinc) <O
Half vein
L/13 segment clawZinc <O
segment claw Buntmetal
smooth claw<O
loops <O
L/14
L/15 Two Prong <O
Four Prong<O
L/16 Four Prong <O
Two Prong
L/17 (same die as L/13)
L/18 no-veins <O
Veins
L/53 no-veins <O
veins
<OL/56 Veins <O
no-veins <O
Zinc
L/57 Flat pins <O
Round pins <O

111unmarked Ziemer&Sohne (a.k.a: BigEye) <O
55 Hammer & Sohne

[newoq11]

[newoq11]

[CMSgt]

Prinzen

Prinzen spanges

Deumer two prongs and <O</Ofour prongs<O</O</O
Schickle two prong and <O</Ofour prong <O</O
<O</OS&L TWO PRONG and FOUR PRONG

[Douglas 5]

Winkler just sold a 107 marked 2nd class Spange ... not sure if it is good though ... not mentioned in the list ???

Douglas

[Bob Hritz]

You can add L/57 1st Class Screwback in the second pattern to the list.

Bob Hritz

[tinmantis]

mini update (re: EK2L/56):


EK1..................

early style:
unmarked possibly Juncker
unmarked possibly Boerger (+screwback)
unmarked possibly Maybauer

unmarked 'intermediate' (+screwback)('no-vein', 'half-veined', and 'full-veined' dies) Petz+Lorenz

second style:
L/10? (only seen the box)
L/11 (+screwback) (+L/11 marked 800?) (+'no-veins' die)
L/12 (+screwback)
L/13
L/15 (+screwback)
L/16
L/17 (almost same die as L/13)
L/18 ('no-veins' + 'long-veins' / 'short veins' dies)
L/52 (marked 900)
L/54 (resembles L/53 EK2spangen? so much so I believe this is from maker L/53. there is a pinback and screwback version)
L/56
unmarked unknown #1 (TheUnknownMaker) possibly L/57?
see: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...n+Maker+Spange

EK1SpangenEK1 COMBOS:
early Juncker
intermediate?
L/11
L/16 (+screwback)
L/18 (and screwback)
numerous Jeweller joined creations, including examples put together (private commisions?) by L/12, L/52, and maybe more


EK2.....................

early style:
unmarked possibly Juncker ('fat vein'? + 'thin vein' dies)
unmarked possibly Boerger (swirly die, tail feather die, extra feather die, veined die.
see:http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...8&postcount=86)
unmarked possibly Maybauer
unmarked 'intermediate' possibly Maybauer?

second style:

prinzen:
L/11
unmarked possibly S+L?
unmarked unknown #1
unmarked possibly L/15?

full size:
L/11 (veined and no-vein dies)
L/12 ('full vein' + 'half veined' dies)
L/13 ('segment claw' + 'smooth claw' dies) (+loops)
L/15 (2 different date dies)
L/16
L/17 (same die as L/13)
L/18 ('no-veins' + 'veins' die)
L/53 ('no-veins' + 'veins' die)
L/56 (+'no-veins' L/56 mm'd die)
L/57 (+marked 800)
L/59? (only seen the box)
unmarked Ziemer&Sohne (a.k.a: BigEye) ('no neck-vein' + 'neck-vein' die)
unmarked J.E. Hammer & Sohne (a.k.a: 55)
unmarked L/52 Zimmerman (planchet recovered from Zimmerman 'burnt horde')

regards
jon

[George Stimson]

Thank you!

[tinmantis]

yet another update:


EK1..................

early style:
unmarked possibly Juncker
unmarked possibly Boerger (+screwback)
unmarked possibly Maybauer

unmarked 'intermediate' (+screwback)('no-vein', 'half-veined', and 'full-veined' dies) Petz+Lorenz

second style:
L/10? (only seen the box)
L/11 (+screwback) (+L/11 marked 800?) (+'no-veins' die)
L/12 (+screwback)
L/13
L/15 (+screwback)
L/16
L/17 (almost same die as L/13)
L/18 ('no-veins' + 'long-veins' / 'short veins' dies)
L/52 (marked 900)
L/54 (resembles L/53 EK2spangen? so much so I believe this is from maker L/53. there is a pinback and screwback version)
L/56
unmarked unknown #1 (TheUnknownMaker) possibly L/57?
see: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...n+Maker+Spange

EK1SpangenEK1 COMBOS:
early Juncker
intermediate?
L/11
L/16 (+screwback)
L/18 (and screwback)
numerous Jeweller joined creations, including examples put together (private commisions?) by L/12, L/52, and maybe more


EK2.....................

early style:
unmarked possibly Juncker ('fat vein'? + 'thin vein' dies)
unmarked possibly Boerger (swirly die, tail feather die, extra feather die, veined die.
see:http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...8&postcount=86)
unmarked possibly Maybauer
unmarked 'intermediate' possibly Maybauer?

second style:

prinzen:
L/11
unmarked possibly S+L?
unmarked unknown #1
unmarked possibly L/15?

full size:
L/11 (veined and no-vein dies)
L/12 ('full vein' + 'half veined' dies)
L/13 ('segment claw' + 'smooth claw' dies) (+loops)
L/15 (2 different date dies)
L/16
L/17 (same die as L/13)
L/18 ('no-veins' + 'veins' die)
L/53 ('no-veins' + 'veins' die)
L/56 (same as 'segment claw' L/13?)(+'no-veins' L/56 mm'd die)
L/57 (+marked 800)
L/59? (only seen the box)
unmarked Ziemer&Sohne (a.k.a: BigEye) ('no neck-vein' + 'neck-vein' die)
unmarked J.E. Hammer & Sohne (a.k.a: 55)
unmarked L/52 Zimmerman (planchet recovered from Zimmerman 'burnt horde')

regards
jon

[kaaatinaz]

Good work! Could it be possible to post he pictures of all or at least most of the spanges here? Or maybe just links to threads with pictures? If we all do som efforts with it so would this list be more informative. What do you think?

[william15]

Spange opinions

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[tinmantis]

another update:
EK1..................

early style:
unmarked possibly Juncker
unmarked possibly Boerger (+screwback)
unmarked possibly Maybauer

unmarked 'intermediate' (+screwback)('no-vein', 'half-veined', and 'full-veined' dies) Petz+Lorenz

second style:
L/10? (only seen the box)
L/11 (+screwback) (+L/11 marked 800?) (+'no-viens' die)
L/12 (+screwback)
L/13
L/15 (+screwback)
L/16
L/17 (almost same die as L/13)
L/18 ('no-viens' + 'long-viens' / 'short viens' dies)
L/52 (marked 900)
L/54 (resembles L/53 EK2spangen? so much so I believe this is from maker L/53. there is a pinback and screwback version)
L/56
unmarked unknown #1 (TheUnknownMaker) possibly L/57?
see: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...n+Maker+Spange

EK1SpangenEK1 COMBOS:
early Juncker
intermediate?
L/11
L/16 (+screwback)
L/18 (and screwback)
numerous Jeweller joined creations, including examples put together (private commisions?) by L/12, L/52, and maybe more


EK2.....................

early style:
unmarked possibly Juncker ('fat vien'? + 'thin vien' dies)
unmarked possibly Boerger (swirly die, tail feather die, extra feather die, viened die.
see:http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...8&postcount=86)
unmarked possibly Maybauer
unmarked 'intermediate' possibly Maybauer?

second style:

prinzen:
L/11
unmarked possibly S+L?
unmarked unknown #1
unmarked possibly L/15?

full size:
L/11
L/12 ('full vien' + 'half viened' dies)
L/13 ('segment claw' + 'smooth claw' dies) (+loops)
L/15 (2 different date dies)
L/16
L/17 (same die as L/13)
L/18 ('no-viens' + 'viens' die)
L/53 ('no-viens' + 'viens' die)
L/56 (same as 'segment claw' L/13?)(+'no-viens' L/56 mm'd die)
L/57 (+marked 800)
L/59? (only seen the box)
unmarked Ziemer&Sohne (a.k.a: BigEye) ('no neck-vien' + 'neck-vien' die)
unmarked J.E. Hammer & Sohne (a.k.a: 55)
unmarked L/52 Zimmerman (planchet recovered from Zimmerman 'burnt horde')

regards
jon