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    The METZ 1944 Cuff Title

    This thread is being put in place to support and centralize all research and photos, concerning the METZ 1944 cuff title, that is on this Forum. By doing so, it is hoped to simplify one's search for information in regards to this award.
    In terms of rarity it is probably as rare, or more so, then the CHOLM Shield. Surviving examples may have been lost due to being made of cloth, whereas the CHOLM is metal, enduring the travails of age and time and still surviving. Moths don't eat metal!
    The battle for Metz took place from 27 September – 13 December 1944.
    In November of 1944, the strength of the Metz garrison, at the beginning of the new attacks by Allied forces, was probably not much over 14,000 officers and men. Its combat strength was somewhat lower, between 9,000 and 10,000. (Cole, Hugh M. (1950). The Lorraine Campaign. Historical Division, United States Army.)
    The number of awards made and the total production run numbers are unknown. Anyone having information concerning production runs, number of awards made or information concerning the Jaquard embroidery machines used, is urged to comment.
    Information that will help make this thread better would include pictures of the front and back, the inside reverse stitching of the title itself and the ends, front and back, if necessary. Close ups are of great value. If you have a Metz award document, pictures would be appreciated. If there is a SOLDBUCH or WEHRPASS with an entry concerning the award, please submit a photo of the front inside of the book and the page with the award information. There is one thread, with an explanation of an unofficial French award, given to the French and American troops that captured the city and I felt that it should be included for posterity. There is no picture of the actual award. If someone has a picture of it, please submit it, with the usual prerequisites being observed!
    Threads added by Association Members would be of most use to the membership at large, if you will remember to not use an outside server. If you are a guest or a MEMBER and would like to submit something, contact me and I will add the photo, so as not to have it lost to posterity by using some hosting website other than the WAF!
    As for this reference, only threads that are pertinent to the discussion have been culled. Threads that were missing photos because of non-association membership, where the photos were no longer available, were not used. There was no information that has not been duplicated in threads that were used. This same explanation holds true for threads started around 2003/2004 where photos were lost because of the change over to the new server.
    Finally, being only human, I may have missed some threads concerning the cuff title that should have been included. I used the SEARCH function and entered the key words METZ 1944. There were 5 pages of postings. Over 95% of them were not germane to the discussion at hand. If you feel that you had one that I missed and would like to have the information and/or photo added, please feel free to join the discussion and resubmit it.
    I will show the photos, starting from the earliest thread. Credit will go to the originator of each photo and I will include a link to the thread.
    First of all, here is a link to the excellent article by COL. Scott Pritchett:
    http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/camp...itles/metz.htm

    Thank you,
    Tim Alexander

    Addendum:
    Where there is a "Judgement", be warned that it is not my judgement, but the opinion from contributors to the thread.
    Last edited by TP Alexander; 03-18-2015, 12:36 PM.

    #2
    Date:
    07-03-2003
    Thread:
    http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Metz+1944
    Started by:
    C.O.Sargent
    Photo Attribution:
    CSP
    Caption:
    If I were considering buying a METZ 1944 cuffband and it did not look like this...I would recommend not buying it.

    Judgement:
    Real
    Attached Files
    Last edited by TP Alexander; 03-18-2015, 12:22 PM.

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      #3
      Date:
      07-03-2003
      Thread:
      http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Metz+1944
      Started by:
      C.O.Sargent
      Photo Attribution:
      CSP
      Caption:
      If I were considering buying a METZ 1944 cuffband and it did not look like this...I would recommend not buying it.

      Judgement:
      Real
      Attached Files
      Last edited by TP Alexander; 03-18-2015, 12:22 PM.

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        #4
        Date:
        02-13-2005
        Thread:
        http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Metz+1944
        Started by:
        upbeek
        Photo Attribution:
        upbeek
        Caption:
        hi guys is there any chance this is real ???chay

        Judgement:
        Repro
        Attached Files
        Last edited by TP Alexander; 03-18-2015, 12:23 PM.

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          #5
          Date:
          12-22-2005
          Thread:
          http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Metz+1944
          Started by:
          djpool
          Photo Attribution:
          djpool
          Caption:
          2005 will definately be a collecting year that I won't forget. This METZ 1944 CT pretty much sums up my year. I want to thank Bob Hritz for offering it to me, Scott Pritchett and Bob again for their technical assistance and to my wife for lending me the money.
          When I found out about the CT from Bob I read Scotts excellent article on the CT as well as every book I had that featured it. The one thing that stood out was how very little variation there was among the featured original CTs. From the front the only variation I could see was the spacing between the letters T and Z. When I looked at the backsides it appears that at least 2 different settings were used to embroider the CT. The spacing of the letters may be tied to which setting was used.
          I know Bob posted a few pictures on the General wehrmacht Awards Forum but here are some more detailed pictures as well as some comparisons against CTS used in Scotts article.

          W/R Jim

          Judgement:
          Real
          Attached Files
          Last edited by TP Alexander; 03-18-2015, 12:23 PM.

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            #6
            Date:
            12-22-2005
            Thread:
            http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Metz+1944
            Started by:
            djpool
            Photo Attribution:
            djpool
            Caption:
            2005 will definately be a collecting year that I won't forget. This METZ 1944 CT pretty much sums up my year. I want to thank Bob Hritz for offering it to me, Scott Pritchett and Bob again for their technical assistance and to my wife for lending me the money.

            Judgement:
            Real
            Attached Files
            Last edited by TP Alexander; 03-18-2015, 12:23 PM.

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              #7
              Date:
              12-22-2005
              Thread:
              http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Metz+1944
              Started by:
              djpool
              Photo Attribution:
              djpool
              Caption:
              2005 will definately be a collecting year that I won't forget. This METZ 1944 CT pretty much sums up my year. I want to thank Bob Hritz for offering it to me, Scott Pritchett and Bob again for their technical assistance and to my wife for lending me the money...

              Judgement:
              Real
              Attached Files
              Last edited by TP Alexander; 03-18-2015, 12:23 PM.

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                #8
                Date:
                12-22-2005
                Thread:
                http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Metz+1944
                Started by:
                djpool
                Photo Attribution:
                djpool
                Caption:
                2005 will definately be a collecting year that I won't forget. This METZ 1944 CT pretty much sums up my year. I want to thank Bob Hritz for offering it to me, Scott Pritchett and Bob again for their technical assistance and to my wife for lending me the money.....

                Judgement:
                Real
                Attached Files
                Last edited by TP Alexander; 03-18-2015, 12:24 PM.

                Comment


                  #9
                  Date:
                  12-22-2005
                  Thread:
                  http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Metz+1944
                  Started by:
                  djpool
                  Photo Attribution:
                  djpool
                  Caption:
                  2005 will definately be a collecting year that I won't forget. This METZ 1944 CT pretty much sums up my year. I want to thank Bob Hritz for offering it to me, Scott Pritchett and Bob again for their technical assistance and to my wife for lending me the money. .....

                  Judgement:
                  Real
                  Attached Files
                  Last edited by TP Alexander; 03-18-2015, 12:24 PM.

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                    #10
                    Date:
                    12-19-2005
                    Thread:
                    http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Metz+1944
                    Started by:
                    Bob Hritz
                    Photo Attribution:
                    Bob Hritz
                    Caption:
                    I just picked up a duplicate Metz 1944 cuff title and thought I would post it with the title from my collection.

                    Bob Hritz

                    Judgement:
                    Real
                    Attached Files
                    Last edited by TP Alexander; 03-18-2015, 12:24 PM.

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                      #11
                      Date:
                      10-07-2008
                      Thread:
                      http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Metz+1944
                      Started by:
                      GELIS44
                      Photo Attribution:
                      GOOGLE
                      Caption:
                      I'm looking for info on the Metz Liberation Medal!! I recently spoke with the daughter of a vet who brought one home, with the award document! I am under the assumption they were awarded to GI's who liberated the town, possibly by the mayor, or city council etc.. Value? Are they rare? I've never seen one before!!
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                        #12
                        Date:
                        10-07-2008
                        Thread:
                        http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Metz+1944
                        Started by:
                        GELIS44
                        Photo Attribution:
                        GOOGLE
                        Caption:
                        I'm looking for info on the Metz Liberation Medal!! I recently spoke with the daughter of a vet who brought one home, with the award document! I am under the assumption they were awarded to GI's who liberated the town, possibly by the mayor, or city council etc.. Value? Are they rare? I've never seen one before!!
                        Attached Files

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                          #13
                          Date:
                          01-25-2010
                          Thread:
                          http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Metz+1944
                          Started by:
                          blutundehre
                          Photo Attribution:
                          Bob Hritz
                          Caption:
                          Hi all,
                          I have a German map of Metz and would like to know if anyone has the cuff title
                          "METZ 1944" and can post it. I will probably never be able to afford a real one for my display,so I got a reproduction and it looks twice as bid as a normal ss cuff title. Is this accurate?
                          Thanks in advance
                          Dave
                          --------------------------------------------------------
                          Original title from collection of Jim Pool.

                          Bob Hritz

                          Judgement:
                          Real
                          Attached Files
                          Last edited by TP Alexander; 03-18-2015, 12:24 PM.

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                            #14
                            Date:
                            05-28-2011
                            Thread:
                            http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Metz+1944
                            Started by:
                            Mansteinpearl
                            Photo Attribution:
                            Mansteinpearl
                            Caption:
                            Hi my friend,
                            A friend want sell this item
                            It's a Metz 1944 Cufftitle ..
                            Good or fake ?
                            Value ?

                            Judgement:
                            Repro
                            Attached Files
                            Last edited by TP Alexander; 03-18-2015, 12:30 PM.

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                              #15
                              Date:
                              10-14-2013
                              Thread:
                              http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=Metz+1944
                              Started by:
                              sog55
                              Photo Attribution:
                              sog55
                              Caption:
                              hello

                              good or fake ?


                              Judgement:
                              Repro
                              Attached Files

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