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    #31
    Were all three pieces in the set, medal, ribbon and lapel pin, made by the same company? The reason I ask is, on most of the type-3 (slot brooch) medals there is nothing to show who made it, while it's ribbon has a stamp in the pinback device. With a a lot of the sets today being fitted with mismatched pieces, who can make sense out of all of it when there are no markings on most of the brooches?

    Robert

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      #32
      Originally posted by robert pierce
      Were all three pieces in the set, medal, ribbon and lapel pin, made by the same company? The reason I ask is, on most of the type-3 (slot brooch) medals there is nothing to show who made it, while it's ribbon has a stamp in the pinback device. With a a lot of the sets today being fitted with mismatched pieces, who can make sense out of all of it when there are no markings on most of the brooches?

      Robert
      A good question that may not have a good answer. There are different styles of lapel buttons that may be made by a set number of companies perhaps that weren't making medals. It almost makes sense to sub-contract lapel pins and perhaps ribbons as well.

      As far as mis-matched pieces it's going to be hard, you really have to know styles of manufacturing. For example it's pretty easy to tell a planchet strike of today compared to WWII era planchets. You would have to be an expert to know the difference between a BB&B or a US Mint example.

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        #33
        Thanks Coastie,

        I think this mismatching occurs quite often on EBay when sellers try and fit-out a cased set. First finds from vets are really nice.

        Forgive me if this maker was already covered in this thread. I couldn't find any reference regarding an 'N' in a circle just below the 'STERLING' lettering as is on this WWII expert weapons qualification badge. Any ideas on this?

        Robert
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          #34
          Just thought I'd add some more medals that haven't previously been mentioned to the list of manufacturers...

          <p>American Emblem Co., Inc.
          Bronze Star medal (29 January 1945 dated box)
          Purple Heart (26 April 1933 dated box)
          Women’s Army Corps service medal (13 March 1946 dated box)
          American Defense service medal (12 September 1945 dated box)

          Art Metal Works, Inc.
          WWI Victory Medal (1920 dated box)

          Bailey, Banks & Biddle (BB&B, BBB)
          pre-WWII Soldier’s Medal, 1st issue
          Purple Heart (1932 and 1937 dated boxes)
          Porto Rican Occupation medal (12 October 1931 dated box)
          Pre-WWII Naval Academy Short Range Battle Practice (Great Guns) medal

          Bastian Bros Co, Rochester, NY
          Legion of Merit, Legionnaire (3 September 1943 dated box)
          Air Medal (18 August 1943 dated box)

          V.H. Blackington
          Medal for Merit

          Consolidated Jeweler’s Mfg. Corp.
          Indian Wars campaign medal (23 March 1936 box)

          Dieges and Clust
          Legion of Merit, Officer (4 February 1952 dated box)

          S.E. Eby
          Army Civil War campaign (23 May 1933 dated box)

          August Frank
          Cuban Occupation medal (31 December 1931 dated box)
          Mexican Border Service Medal (31 December 1931 dated box)

          General Products, Providence, R.I.
          National Defense service medal (1950’s box)
          Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal
          National Guard Armed Forces Reserve medal

          Heckethorn Mfg. & Supply Co., Littleton, Colo.
          WWII Victory Medal (21 June 1946 dated box)

          His Lordship Products (HLP)
          Mexican Border Service Medal (1968 dated box)

          HLI Lordship Industries, Hauppage, NY (LI, HLI)
          Army Philippine Campaign (1980 dated envelope)

          Medallic Art Co., 210E, 51st Street NYC
          Silver Star (numbered w/ wrap brooch; 13 August 1942 dated box)
          Soldier’s Medal (19 July 1945 dated box)
          Air Medal (1943 dated box)
          Army Good Conduct Medal (several WWII contracts)
          Many pre-WWII Army and Navy campaign medals (struck during the 1950’s)
          Asiatic Pacific Campaign medal
          WWII Victory Medal (21 June 1946 dated box)
          Korean Service medal (1955 dated box)
          Navy Armed Forces Reserve medal (1950’s box)

          Metal Arts Co., Inc.
          pre-WWII Soldier’s Medal
          Purple Heart (16 August 1938 and 18 August 1939 dated boxes)
          pre-WWII Naval Reserve medal

          N.S. Meyer Inc.
          Bronze Star (13 April 1944 dated box)

          Robbins Co.
          Purple Heart (numbered, 1 July 1942 dated box)
          Army Civil War Campaign (24 December 1941 dated box)

          Silverman Brothers
          Army Good Conduct Medal (11 May 1944 dated box)

          Tiffany and Co., New York, NY
          Dewey Medal

          Uncas Mfg. Co., Providence, RI
          Silver Star (1943 dated box)
          Bronze Star (7 February 1945 dated box)

          U.S. Mint
          WWII USN/USMC/USCG decorations
          All pre-WWII numbered campaign medals with a “No.” or “M.No.” prefix

          Whitehead & Hoag
          Medal of Freedom (21 January 1946 dated box)
          Spanish War Service Medal
          Mexican Border Service Medal
          WWI Army of Occupation medal (6 September 1945 dated box)

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            #35
            Originally posted by Rich Witt View Post
            Great Work folks, and a couple of observations I'll add.

            Silverman Bros. did Air Medals in WW2 (8-12-43 Contract, and Most Likely Numbered ones, as I have an empty box with a 4 Digit number inked like BB&B did for 1932 PHs & SS's...)

            The Vietnam Era Hallmark: Diamond with what looks like an S inside is actually Williams and Anderson, and did many medals in the Late 60s-Early 70s. I had a Boxed Air Medal with 1971 Date.

            Balfour did Army DSMs and I think some LoMs during WWII., Balfour definitely did Korean War era (1951? Dated Box) LoM Commander Grades.

            Robbins also did Army SS's in the 60,000-75,000 Range (if not a bit broader...) 1942 Contract

            Medallic Art Co. did WWII DSCs 1942 Contract, Numbered in the 20,000 range. They also did ADSMs 9-18-45 & 12-3-45 Contracts

            D.L. Auld did Army of Occupation WWIIs

            Regards, Rich
            www.WittWorldWide.com
            MY GREAT FRIEND RICH!!!!

            I am very happy in see you where!!!!

            That´s one great fellow, expert and US Collector!!!

            Welcome Mate!!

            Best regards from Brazil,

            Ricardo.

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              #36
              Hallmark: D with lightninig bolt

              Hello to all,

              I have a bronze star set most probably from the early 80's with the following hallmark: a D with a lightning bolt going across the letter. Which manufacturer could it be? The ribbon has the same mark, the lp is unmarked. The set is genuine, bought it 15 years ago from a US soldier on a fleemarket in Budapest, Hungary.

              Best wishes to all, Sandor
              Last edited by vaskereszt; 07-31-2007, 03:19 AM.

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                #37
                manufacturer's marks

                Does anyone know who L.I.G.I is? I have a number of metal insignia with that hallmark and I can't seem to find it anywhere. Thanks. Darrell

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                  #38
                  L.I.G.I.-- Lordship Industries and either Government Inspected or Government Issue (I can never remember which). I think this company was also known as His Lordship Industries.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by robert pierce View Post

                    Forgive me if this maker was already covered in this thread. I couldn't find any reference regarding an 'N' in a circle just below the 'STERLING' lettering as is on this WWII expert weapons qualification badge. Any ideas on this?

                    Robert
                    Regarding post #33: Finally identified this one through the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office records. The "N" in a circle was the trademark of F.H. Noble & Co. of Chicago. They first filed for a trademark on this in 1937, but claimed prior use in commerce back to 1892. They filed for a renewal in 1947, which was granted in 1949. It appears that a further renewal was recorded in February of 1969.

                    Considering the sterling mark and the lack of a "G.I." Government Issue mark, this could date from the early 1960s back to creation of the award.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by VerKuilen Ager View Post
                      Regarding post #33: Finally identified this one through the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office records. The "N" in a circle was the trademark of F.H. Noble & Co. of Chicago. They first filed for a trademark on this in 1937, but claimed prior use in commerce back to 1892. They filed for a renewal in 1947, which was granted in 1949. It appears that a further renewal was recorded in February of 1969.

                      Considering the sterling mark and the lack of a "G.I." Government Issue mark, this could date from the early 1960s back to creation of the award.
                      You're amazing, you know that. It's been months ago, and you found the answer. I need to give this badge to you just for finding the answer, really.

                      Robert

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                        #41
                        I'd be happy with a 300 dpi scan of the mark. I'm trying to round up pictures of marks, especially oddball ones.

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                          #42
                          OK, let me dig it out...

                          Robert
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                                #45
                                5 Pointed shooting star

                                Anyone know a 5 Pointed shooting star mark? This one is a gold ROTC medal of 1929 from Washington State College. Thanks, Fred
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