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An Introduction to IJA dog tag specifications and regulations (1894-1945)

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  • kaigunair
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    E-P-I-C.

    Incredible information Nick and thanks for all the time and effort you put into it.

    (makes me glad I kept that particular tag and its companion too ).

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  • Nick Komiya
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    There are legitimate examples of hand carved EM tags done by hand in officer tag fashion, which spilled over into another thread, so I will provide the link here to keep all tag issues consolidated under this roof.
    http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=820550

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  • Nick Komiya
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    I see now on the E-Stand a dog tag that has had the numbers chiseled in using something like a screw driver. Please be aware that such improvised tags are mostly fakes using original blanks that have been around in great numbers for years (Nakata used to sell blanks too). Dog tags were generally not stamped under circumstances that required such time-consuming field improvisations. They were not done in the field, but done before leaving Japan, and tag numbers up to the standard company size of about 200 were all pre-stamped in sizable lots in advance. Using a screwdriver to stamp these in quantity is simply unthinkably time-consuming, while with stamping dies it went much faster. Also replacements received their tags already at the replacement unit in Japan before being deployed, so there really was no excuse for field-made tags. Remember that these tags do not have a person's name on them, so they were not made for a certain individual, but rather pre-stamped with consecutive numbers like theater tickets with seat numbers and then handed out. So for instance, if one had to stamp serial numbers 10 to 19, I imagine one will stamp 10 tags with the same "1" and then add the 0 to 9 to each rather than stamp one complete tag at a time.

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  • Striking 9th
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    Thanks as always for your very hard work Nick. Great information as always.

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  • Nick Komiya
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    Looks like the list links are all working. They show up shortened, but they are complete. That is a relief.

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  • Rod G
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    OMG!

    As someone who's tried putting the story together using bits and pieces from the world wide web there is nothing like it anywhere else. This latest effort is the perfect companion piece to the Guntai Techo article.

    Bravo Nick!!!

    Rod

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  • RussellM
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    Nick, I couldn't agree more with the comments already posted.

    Your commitment to sharing with us the phenomenal research you've undertaken on this subject, and so many others, is simply astounding, and greatly appreciated!

    Regards

    Russ

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  • imperialjapan
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    Thanks again, Nick, for such selfless work. Fantastic information!

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  • Jareth
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    Invaluable info here! Groundbreaking research that will hopefully unlock the dog tag codes!

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  • Nick Komiya
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    All the long archive links got cut short during the upload. There must be some kind of limit here to the length of link addresses. I don't have the energy left to deal with the problem now, so if you need those links, e-mail me and I will send a word file with the live full links to you.

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  • JapanX
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    Originally posted by Nick Komiya View Post
    ... this thread better than anything they have read on the subject of dog tags so far.
    It certainly is

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  • GeorgeP
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    Thank you, Nick, I really appreciate all that you bring to this forum. This thread has connected several dots for me and has answered a lot of questions. Thanks again!


    Tom

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  • Nick Komiya
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    George, I virtually wrote this thread for you, following up on the exchange we had some time ago, so I am pleased to answer your questions.
    1. The tags they got at the replacement units were all they got. No mention of getting replacements at the destination unit. So there would have been no company designation on those, but later Tsushogo did often indicate company and battalion designations.
    2. つむ, I guess indicates he was in the Radio (無線、Musen) Company of the Signals (通信隊、Tsushin). In that case, つゆ would have indicated the phone company (有線、Yusen).
    There are no provisions for Hiragana and Katakana stampings in regulations and they must be field improvised codes easily recognized by insiders, but discreet against outsiders.

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  • Nick Komiya
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    Stu, the info you have is correct. There is no English version, but surprisingly a German version exists.
    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphib...bische_Brigade
    Just became aware that the list links seem to have died when I cut and pasted them. Will have to fix them after figuring out how that happened.

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  • Stu W
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    Another outstanding contribution! Thank you Nick. Although I have sold off all but one of my dog tags, and fondly recall owning a couple you have pictured, I still find your article of great interest.

    I mentioned I have one left and will add it in here with the information I currently have for it. Perhaps you could comment.

    Here is the information ...

    1st Amphibious Brigade, 1st Mobile Battalion. The code kanji is "kakeru" (run, gallop). The 1st Mobile Battalion was on Eniwetok although I believe one Company went to Peleliu. Many members of the 1st Amphibious Brigade came out of an Independent Garrison Battalion up in Manchuria. Thanks to Tom and a couple others for what I have so far.

    Regards,
    Stu
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