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    #16
    Back with soldered disc:
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      #17
      Not a real fake but often used as a "Spangenstück" is the Golden Military Merit Cross made by the german firm Göde as so called "Museumskopie". Watch out for any of them, they appear in ebay frequently! I even saw one at Weitzes website for sale as "Spangenstück"!!!

      Here is one from ebay. Watch for the very long and strange screwed looking small ring/loop which is part of the cross!
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        #18
        And the pics from Weitze. Same cheap Göde cross with the strange ring!
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            #20
            And a third one now at ebay:
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              #21
              I found this Waldorf card on which one can see the difference. Thanks for posting the fake pics. I didnt know that even the EK II is not safe anymore !

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                #22
                Thanks for this pic. This is the awarded cross. There are "real" Spangenstücke but they all have a soldered small ring.

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                  #23
                  Another early cast fake. Interestingly, it came on what appears to be a piece of early 1813 ribbon.
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by JensF.
                    Next one is the classic polish EK1 copy. It is one-piece and non-magnetic.
                    Hi Jens, I just bought one of these for 12 Euro to have an example. Ebay item #3252124868 . Its good to have this posted, I see lots of them being sold as originals on ebay Deutschland. Tony

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                      #25
                      Here is a website which deals with reproductions of Imperial German medals:

                      http://yawp.com/3rd-i/staff/abbadon/...k/badges2.html

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                        #26
                        1914 Spange

                        These also come marked Wagner.

                        http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=13965

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                          #27
                          Here's another example of the bad one in posts 3, 4, and 5. (It's the only Imperial resident of the Fakes Case!)
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                            #28
                            Reverse.
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                              #29
                              Yep, the classic polish copy. Thanks for this contribution.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by JensF.
                                Here is a website which deals with reproductions of Imperial German medals:

                                http://yawp.com/3rd-i/staff/abbadon/...k/badges2.html
                                The Imperial orders there look like the one-sided Göde "museum" copies which pop up from time to time and shouldn't fool anyone.

                                Here is an Order of the Zähringen Lion. This one-sided example truly is a "wearer's copy". From the front, the detail is pretty good (albeit not as good as an original) and much better than a Göde, but the back gives it away.


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