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Old 12-03-2018, 01:34 PM   #1
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Default Krim / Zink shield

Hi guys

Hope you can help me with this shield.
Its non magnetic, zinc shield with a magnetic back plate.

I have never seen this kind of fabric on a Krim shield but must admit I havent seen that many.
I am curious about the cloth and backing paper.

All help/pointers appreciated.

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Old 12-03-2018, 02:13 PM   #2
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First I want to say F.Orth, but it does not like an Orth Krim to me.

In the book "Der Krimschild" by Sacha Weber it goes under the name "1.26 Unknown - F.Orth design".

The type of cloth I have not seen before.

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Old 12-03-2018, 02:54 PM   #3
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Сloth possibly gabardine.




I consider the shield to be more fake than original. But everyone here considers him authentic.
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Old 12-04-2018, 05:35 AM   #4
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Also I consider this Krima option a fake. And never took this shield to itself in a collection.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:26 AM   #5
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Sindri, this is an original Krim shield.
This type of shield can also be found on the so called Deumer sample/sales boards. This type is also known as a ground dug find.

As for the backing, possible but impossible to tell with 100% certainty.

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Old 12-04-2018, 08:33 AM   #6
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Thank you for your replies

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First I want to say F.Orth, but it does not like an Orth Krim to me.

In the book "Der Krimschild" by Sacha Weber it goes under the name "1.26 Unknown - F.Orth design".

The type of cloth I have not seen before.

/Jonas
Hi Jonas,
Thanks for the answer, maybe someday I buy that book to have some reference pictures.

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Сloth possibly gabardine.

I consider the shield to be more fake than original. But everyone here considers him authentic.
Thank you, I will check out the fabrics.

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Also I consider this Krima option a fake. And never took this shield to itself in a collection.
Any reason? Not found ground dug or on photographs, material or production?
Something else?

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Sindri, this is an original Krim shield.
This type of shield can also be found on the so called Deumer sample/sales boards. This type is also known as a ground dug find.

As for the backing, possible but impossible to tell with 100% certainty.

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Thank you.
I personally am not a big fan of the sample boards but more of ground dug items.
I have never seen a ground dug shield of this type but I have no reason to doubt there are some.

The fabric and paper is very hard to say thats true, it may sound silly but I often use my nose when I am not sure hehe.. after a few sniffs I would rather guess replaced, smells new and a bit of chemical somehow.
The finish on the shield does not come of with nail polish remover however.

I would really like to see the back of this type of shield, does anyone have one without the backing ?
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Old 12-04-2018, 08:45 AM   #7
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Thank you for your replies

Thank you.
I personally am not a big fan of the sample boards but more of ground dug items.
I have never seen a ground dug shield of this type but I have no reason to doubt there are some.

The fabric and paper is very hard to say thats true, it may sound silly but I often use my nose when I am not sure hehe.. after a few sniffs I would rather guess replaced, smells new and a bit of chemical somehow.
The finish on the shield does not come of with nail polish remover however.

I would really like to see the back of this type of shield, does anyone have one without the backing ?
Here is a pictures of the back of this shield and a ground dug find.

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Thank you very much Pascal for the pictures.
Its appreciated
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Old 12-04-2018, 01:38 PM   #9
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Here is a pictures of the back of this shield and a ground dug find.

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Can I see the reverse of the shield from the ground?
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Old 12-05-2018, 03:48 AM   #10
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Can I see the reverse of the shield from the ground?
Reverse of ground dug find.

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Old 12-05-2018, 05:02 AM   #11
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Pascale's thanks!
The shield found in the earth looks good. But it differs from a shield in a subject, it would be desirable to see the good vertical photo of Krim found in the earth.
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Old 12-05-2018, 05:56 AM   #12
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The shield found in the earth looks good. But it differs from a shield in a subject, it would be desirable to see the good vertical photo of Krim found in the earth.
I tend to disagree. Those are the only pictures I've got from the ground dug shield.
Please bear in mind that this is ground dug shield and that the pictures are been taken from an angle.
IMO this the exact same type.

Here's the one from my collection.

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Old 12-05-2018, 02:41 PM   #13
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Pascal, do not you think that calling a shield 100% original, based only on these photos is not professional?
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Old 12-05-2018, 04:56 PM   #14
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Pascal, do not you think that calling a shield 100% original, based only on these photos is not professional?
Strange and unnecessary comment you made Vladimir.
Please realise that I never base my opinion on only a couple of pictures.
I base my opinion on well founded research unlike some of the comments you made in the past.

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Old 12-05-2018, 05:01 PM   #15
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Pascal, my comments are also based on research, but we have a different approach.
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