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Old 04-19-2012, 02:39 PM   #1
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I have a question regarding this 40 Year Wreath.

In my limited experience with these medals I have never come across a wreath sewn to the ribbon.

I asked the dealer if there were prongs through the ribbon.

Reply was that the wreath did not have prongs on the back.

Can anyone tell me if this type of wreath was available back in the day?

Like I said I've only come across the type with prongs.

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Old 04-19-2012, 03:05 PM   #2
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Same here Wayne, I have never seen that before

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Old 04-19-2012, 03:18 PM   #3
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I asked the seller if there was any evidence of prongs on the back of the wreath.

They said no.

So...........the wreath has a smooth back.

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Old 04-19-2012, 03:33 PM   #4
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I have never come across something like this before but it is very interesting. It has been purposely made this way; note the two holes at the top of each leaf.

How does the front compare with original examples Wayne?
The eagle device is a good one by thw way.

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I have never come across something like this before but it is very interesting. It has been purposely made this way; note the two holes at the top of each leaf.

How does the front compare with original examples Wayne?
The eagle device is a good one by thw way.

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I haven't compared the wreath to the ones I have but on first glance it looks ok to me. Just that I have never seen this type before.

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Old 04-19-2012, 07:44 PM   #6
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I saw this one on Emedals as well and was excited when I first saw the price until I looked more closely at the pics.

If you look at original sets of oakleaves the flat prong is "butt soldered" to the wreath and the ones I have seen where the prongs are broken they quite often break off leaving a clean, smooth backside to the wreath.

So my concern here is that the wreath had broken prongs and the holes were drilled in it at some point to secure it to the ribbon. Note that it is sewn in 4 places. It is not hard to drill holes in this metal with a small steel twist drill.

The question is whether this was done wartime or not. My bias is that it was not done during war time for the following reason. What would the recipient do with this medal? He would put it on an medal bar in a "court mounted" fashion. If you look, the stitches go through both layers of ribbon so why do that and do it in 4 places if it all has to be taken down to mount it? If I found it like this on a medal bar I would feel much better about it.

Anyway, that is my biased opinion and why I passed on it.

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