On visor caps, we see velvet bands change color over time (sometimes to brown). Were the collars on these M-44 flight jackets actually purple when made, or have they faded from another color over time?
(I cannot fathom why the RLM would order purple velvet collars over black, gray, etc).
This one (which was on Ebay) has what appears to be brown velvet to match the body of the jacket):
Couple of years ago I had the chance to buy a nice black set, but it was offered by a investor, so you can imagine the price ..
Even after he dropped the price with 2000 e , the price still was insane.
Think another dark set has been sold on E-stand, maybe 1 or 2 years ago.
I think the grey ones can be found in different shades, the darker ones looking like dark blue.
Here's a jacket of a "black"set I've on file.
You can see some brown peeping through, but the leather parts inside are real black.
Jos.
Hello Jos, a most desirable later issued jacket. Best, Bill
It should be noted that a number of the earlier short-waisted leather jackets favored by fighter pilots were not, in fact, standard motorcycle jackets (although many were), but instead privately tailored pieces exhibiting non-"factory" tailoring, and many with common features (pointed collars, lower front pockets with buttons, upper pockets with zippers, metal interlocking buckle at waist, internal added pocket on left side) have been observed which appear to have come from the same tailor, probably in occupied France and in a town close to an airfield.
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Collecting Kriegsmarine line officer reefer jackets, LW flight material, and Knights Crosses.
this is my one with the collars cut off and id also like one with collars.
this one was worn by gottfried dietze and i have some photos of him wearing it.
it came without the officers eagle and shoulder boards he had on it but im looking to change that as the eagle holes are their but you can see them in the pic as are the holes for the straps/strap holders,
cheers-pablo
Actually, unit KG-51 was one of the first LW units , who used Ме-262. The Oberleutenant Wolfgang Dierich wrote in his memoirs the following:In November-December 1944 one of the aircraft of the KG-51 was shot down . The pilots of the crashed aircraft , whose skin was burnt with the liquid fuel suddenly got the symptoms of toxication.For example Oberfeldfebel Kohler died because of such toxication , although he only got small burns on his hands. As soon as it was discovered that the toxication was caused by the fuel used in gas-turbine engines Me-262, all the pilots were provided with the expansive leather jakets pants and gloves. I think this story is about the jakets and pans we have discussion about here.In your opinion, were these jakets and pants specially designed for the protection of the toxic fuel used in turbo jet engines?