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3. Police helmet with decal ( believed to be 2nd Pattern, used only for a short period after the state cocade was introduced, but before decals were dropped. No further info available at present investigations still on going into this particular helmet.) The decal is not of later manufacture ie motorcycle helmet or vehicle decal. ( Obvious copies of this style of helmet do exist, but are easy to spot as later decals, normally of a larger size, are used.)
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06-20-2004, 05:07 PM
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RE: DDR/NVA Stahlhelm
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My compliments to David for his absolutely exquisite examples of the early KVP and NVA Stahlhelms with the Police Star and Tri-color Shield. These are the best examples I've ever seen. Also, I find the third photograph posted most intriguing. There is no question that the Star Decal is original to the Stahlhelm. I've never seen a Staatswappen decal this size, nor on a Stahlhelm. This is fascinating to say the least. I hope more can be learned about this particular helmet.
There seems to be some confusion relevant the origin of the Stahlhelm adapted by the DDR/NVA. In lieu of that, I thought it might be appropriate to share some information regarding its origin with members of the forum. Much of the information was formerly researched by a woman named Susan E. GIBBONS. Rather than spend the enormous amount of time I'm sure she did going through the various publications from which she subscribed and gleened her information, I found it to be more expeditious to take advantage of her publication and post the important aspects of the development of this very unique and historical helmet, based upon information documentated in her editorial. All credit of course given to her.
THE EAST GERMAN HELMET
East German NVA Stahlhelm: Historical development.
The East German Military Helmet has origins that can be traced all the way back to 1939, and to the Wehrmacht invasion of Poland. The Iron and Steel Specialty Division of the Third Reich Research Council undertook a study at that time, of the ballistic characteristics inherent to various military helmets of armies of several different countries. The Reich Institute For Defense Technology was tasked with this study, and two Professors, Dr. FRY and Dr. HAENSEL were instrumental in securing examples of different helmets from different countries for the test. These helmets, along with the Wehrmacht’s own M35 Stahlhelm, were tested with small arms ammunition fired from a multitude of angles and distances, for research purposes relevant penetration characteristics. The British “Tommy” helmet fared the worst. However, the Wehrmacht’s own M35 also was found to have serious shortcomings. Finding none of the helmets in current use by the different armies of the world to be satisfactory, the Reich Institute undertook steps to design an all together new helmet with the ballistic characteristics sought after. Several prototype helmets for testing were produced by the Voelkingen Stahlwerke. Upon completion of the tests in 1942, the results were provided to the Army Weapons Office. Despite objections by Hitler, this office, under the auspices of a memoranda generated by the Army Medical Inspectorate, went ahead and authorized production of a new pattern combat helmet. The passing of the memorandum was due in part to increasing pressure on the Army Weapons Office to find a solution to the ever increasing number of serious head wounds received by wearers of the M35 and the M42; and to encompass design changes that would address the increasingly scarce supply of necessary materials and labor required for production of the current M35/42 helmet. The M35/42 models were both very expensive to produce, and labor intensive. Subsequently, a total of four prototypes were designed, which were designated A, B, BII, and C. The latter 3 represented major departures from the M35/42 design. After preliminary testing, models B and BII were approved for further testing. Orders were then placed with the Eisen und Huettenwerke for production of no less than 50 examples of each type. They were referred to as the Thale/Harz helmets after their designers. The Helmets were then sent to the Doeblitz Infantry School outside of Berlin, where they were then put through rigorous “Hands-on” testing in a true field environment with Infantry Units at the school. The helmets subsequently proved to be of sound design for wear and use, and were far superior in ballistics to any helmet then made. It was only then that Hitler was approached with the final results of the research program that had gone on for several years without his knowledge. Both helmet designs, B and BII were presented to him in the autumn of 1944 for his approval of one or the other. The new helmet was to be designated the M45. Remarkably, Hitler took no action against anyone for the tests that had gone on behind his back. He did however reject both helmets, doing so on the principal that the current M35/42 in his eyes, best exemplified the German Soldier. His decision was based entirely on his own perception of how countries with whom the Wehrmacht was at war, viewed the German Soldier in Uniform. He felt the M35/42 best exemplified that look. Not surprisingly, memoirs recorded in diaries of some Soviet soldiers suggest the new helmets given to the Infantry School on the outskirts of Berlin for testing, received their baptism of fire when Soviet Forces first entered the Berlin Capital in the Spring of 1945. Reportedly, Russian Troops encountered two Infantry Companies from the Doeblitz Infantry School. The Dresden Museum has in its NVA Display, an example of a model BII Stahlhelm, believed to be a survivor of the last ditch effort by the Wehrmacht against the Russians, as they unsuccessfully strove to fend off the invaders as they entered Berlin.
After the division of the two German states, and the designation of East Germany as a separate country in 1949, a seemingly new type helmet already had appeared, which was worn in limited numbers by the Barracks Police, or KVP. It actually was based upon the model A Stahlhelm and therefore resembled the M35/42. It, together with the Khaki type uniform then worn by the KVP, proved to be problematic with the East German Populace, who found it too closely resembled the uniform of the hated Soviet Military. Consequently in 1956, with the transformation of the KVP into the new National Volkes Army (NVA), the newly established NVA Rear-Services Administration and Office of Technology was ordered to develop a new helmet deemed suitable for an East German “Socialist” Armed Forces. It could not have physical characteristics associated with either the Wehrmacht M35/42 or the Russian helmet. Consequently the Model A helmet then being worn by the KVP was rejected. Yet the helmet still needed to project the “National” character of East Germany. It suddenly dawned on all, that the helmet in question had already been designed, and tested. And, the factory for producing the helmet already existed, with all the necessary tools and die. It just so happened that the Head Engineer appointed to and tasked with the development of the new NVA helmet was Erich KIESEN. Ironically, he had been affiliated with Eisen und Huettenwerke, which had produced the model B and BII helmets formerly approved by the Wehrmacht Army Weapons Office, but rejected by Hitler. Hitler’s rejection now proved paramount and profound, because it paved the way for acceptance of that helmet without connotations of it being associated with the “Fascist” Wehrmacht Army. Better yet, no monies were necessary for research, design and/or testing. The helmet had already been designed, researched and tested thoroughly, and had passed with flying colors on all accounts. Even better was the fact that Engineer KIESEN was the holder of former patents for an improved helmet liner with a new “Y” type chin-strap and ventilation bushings meant for the M35/42, but never implemented. With modifications, the Model B and BII could be quickly fitted with that liner. But most prophetic of all, was the good fortune that the factory in question was completely intact and located on East German soil. The BII subsequently was selected for production over the model B. So it was that in Jan 1956, production of the model BII was resumed. The new helmet was introduced to the East German Public via photographs published that February in a magazine for the German Youth, or FDJ. The new helmet was officially introduced at the introduction ceremony of the NVA on May 1st, in Berlin. It was painted in a “Stone Grey” matte and bore a Tri-color Shield on one side in Black, Red and Gold.
Eventually, the helmet under the direction of Gen. Willi Stoph, went through more rigorous testing, resulting in superficial design modifications over the passing years - the removal of the “Rivets” being one of the later design modification improvements. In principal however, the helmet was found to be superior to anything then being fielded by any army anywhere. Not until the advent of the Kevlar Helmet by the U.S. Military, did a helmet surpass the ballistic qualities endowed to the NVA Stahlhelm, officially designated the M-1956. In 1957 the helmet entered production in earnest in three sizes (60m, 64m and 68m). By September of that same year, 50,000 helmets had been produced and issued to NVA Troops. By years end, all NVA Troops had the helmet. The entire process – development to production and issue, was accomplished in a single year. Also in 1957, the first “Resin” or plastic NVA helmets were produced for issue to and wear by special elite or honor guard troops.
It should be noted that the first production helmets had a liner similar to the M-42, but were configured with a double “Y” chin-strap. Consequently, any NVA Stahlhelm found to be configured with an M-42 type liner and the single type adjustable chinstrap, could very well be an example of a model B or BII produced during the era of the Wehrmacht. The “Rivets” of course should be found to be positioned lower on the helmet than on subsequent 1956 production models. Certainly, something to consider and think about.
While much of what is referenced above can be found through research of varied publications, I wish to extend full credit for the above referenced information to Susan E. Gibbons. Much of it, while originally based upon data acquired from different independent resources, is a compilation of historic information extracted from a research publication she authored. >>
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06-20-2004, 08:23 PM
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Thanks Michael
That answered my question about the single chinstrap.
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06-20-2004, 09:23 PM
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mike
i think that you got that covered pretty well.
good show!!!
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06-21-2004, 04:36 AM
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Mike, thats a good informative over view  of what can be a very long winded subject
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RE: Long winded indeed |
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06-21-2004, 07:57 AM
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RE: Long winded indeed
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Mike, thats a good informative over view  of what can be a very long winded subject 
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Thanks David. That was about 8 pages of Research Data shortened down to a few paragraphs of just the facts.
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06-25-2004, 08:24 PM
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Hello Everyone,
I wanted to post to this topic since it appeared but various viruses and computer glitches held me back. I will say my sweetie Ursula helped me work through all these scanner programs and photo editors. Anyway, I think Mike's source got her information from the best books on German Helmets I have seen. It is a three volume set by Ludwig Baer. This 3 volume set has information on all the German helmets from WW1 until the end of the DDR to include West German info. Bender published a synopsis of the first two German volumes. Here is a picture of the three German books and Bender's English version.
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06-25-2004, 08:27 PM
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Picture of books
I guess I didn't wait long enough for the upload.
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The polizei decal. |
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06-25-2004, 08:34 PM
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The polizei decal.
The Baer books really describe the DDR Stahlhelm. It is the only book I have ever seen with a picture of the polizei decal being worn. There are several pictures in the 3rd volume. The caption under this picture is Einheit Sago ...9.12.59...and these are described as Zivilverteidigung Units.
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Proposals for decals |
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06-25-2004, 08:50 PM
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Proposals for decals
The Baer books show the different suggestions for the DDR decal. No where have I ever seen this information. The book also has the actual reports from the ballistic test that Michael describes. Here is a picture of the decals.
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06-25-2004, 08:52 PM
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Not done yet
He shows a picture of Kampfgruppen decals. Dan Dolfi has one these helemts but I have never seen one.
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06-25-2004, 09:04 PM
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Kinderhelm
The DDR had decals for the children's helmets whent they played cowboys and capitialist.
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06-25-2004, 09:14 PM
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Dimensions
Here are the dimensions and placement of the decal on the helmet. And you all thought the subject was exhausted.
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06-25-2004, 10:53 PM
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RE: DDR Stahlhelm
Thanks Mike,
Very informative followup. I found the decal information to be particularly profound. This was the first I'd heard of a decal on a Stahlhelm that was specific to the Kampfgruppen. I've seen many black and white photos relevant this organ of the DDR, but have never seen an example of the helmet depicted. Perhaps it is a "Muster" or prototype helmet that was submitted for consideration, but in the end, never approved for issue and use. The photo you posted of the helmet with the police star decal (KVP) was certainly interesting. Perhaps someone eventually will be able to come forward and shed some light on the police dacal to which David posted (Star w/Staatswappen). It is very unique.
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06-26-2004, 05:39 AM
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Bender Books
Michael,
You can get the English version of the Baer book at these sites. I have to admit that it doesn't have nearly the detail the 3-volumed German set does. For example, it does not have the proposed decals for the DDR helmet.
http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/...l+helmet&sts=t
http://www.rzm.com/main/search.cfm
I am sure the German volumes are available. Mike Custer
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