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WW2 Japanese Naval Dagger... or ver good fake???
Old 06-22-2011, 12:27 PM   #1
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Default WW2 Japanese Naval Dagger... or ver good fake???

I recently picked up this Dagger off a local auction site.

It was part of a large 'lot' offer of Badges, medals, old cigarette tins, etc.

The pictures were not very good but it looked like a really good Japanese Naval Dagger.

It arrived today and I'm a bit worried. The handle which I was expecting to have a fishskin, copper wire, and brass fitting are all made to look brass but area single piece made of molded plastic.

I only paid R500 (or +- $65) for the entire lot, so if it is a dud, you won't hurt my feelings to badly.

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Old 06-22-2011, 12:43 PM   #2
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Aside from the obvious red flag one piece plastic moulding you described, the fittings, blade, and scabbard look wrong, IMO.
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:52 PM   #3
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I think it's just a cheap late war handle. It doesn't look like any of the fakes I've seen. Maybe someone else here has one?
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Old 06-22-2011, 01:10 PM   #4
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Some late war dirks had plastic handles - even plastic fittings painted gold. Like many early experiments in plastic, these are usually deformed from age.

I haven't seen a totally one-piece handle before - even the Menuki are cast into this one. But I have never paid much attention to these dirks.

A fellow collector told me he saw them still being made in Japan - my understanding is that the Maritime Self-Defense Force still wears them.

But like I said - not my area.
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Old 06-22-2011, 01:43 PM   #5
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Looks like what I have previously seen described as a late war piece. I've noted that these late war types (if that's indeed what they are) do have one piece molded grips so I'm inclined to think this one is authentic.

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Bizarre, I have not seen, nor would expect a one piece moulded grip.

Is there any available reference to this "late war" type?
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:34 PM   #7
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Although I have not yet asked Paul about this one I think it too may have a molded grip.

http://www.lakesidetrader.com/pics/Jap-3d.jpg

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WW2 Japanese Naval Dagger... or ver good fake???
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Default WW2 Japanese Naval Dagger... or ver good fake???

I found this one presently listed on Ebay.

The seller has kindly given me permission to use the pictures, for the purpose of this discussion.











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Old 06-23-2011, 01:00 PM   #9
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Its 100% genuien late war, made from cheap materials.
Some has the scabbard and fittings made in one pice.
At the end of the war the Japanese had too use the brass and copper elsewhere.

Nice price You gave for Yours ,mabye difficult too find a scabbard shoe for it.
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I recently picked up this Dagger off a local auction site.

It was part of a large 'lot' offer of Badges, medals, old cigarette tins, etc.

The pictures were not very good but it looked like a really good Japanese Naval Dagger.

It arrived today and I'm a bit worried. The handle which I was expecting to have a fishskin, copper wire, and brass fitting are all made to look brass but area single piece made of molded plastic.

I only paid R500 (or +- $65) for the entire lot, so if it is a dud, you won't hurt my feelings to badly.

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This images are very attractive and i want some information. because i am trying to improve my skill about marketing. so for this reason i have to be informative.
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:22 AM   #11
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Woneek , please ask question again , cus I dont understand what You mean.
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Bizarre, I have not seen, nor would expect a one piece moulded grip.

Is there any available reference to this "late war" type?
I have purchased several of these directly from veterans. This form has been around since I started collecting, which was long before the inception of Chinese fakes.
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I recently picked up this Dagger off a local auction site.

It was part of a large 'lot' offer of Badges, medals,
electronic cigarettes, etc.

The pictures were not very good but it looked like a really good Japanese Naval Dagger.

It arrived today and I'm a bit worried. The handle which I was expecting to have a fishskin, copper wire, and brass fitting are all made to look brass but area single piece made of molded plastic.

I only paid R500 (or +- $65) for the entire lot, so if it is a dud, you won't hurt my feelings to badly.

Regards
Bruce
This images are very attractive and i want some information. because i am trying to improve my skill about marketing. so for this reason i have to be informative.
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Old 01-26-2014, 07:52 PM   #14
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This images are very attractive and i want some information. because i am trying to improve my skill about marketing. so for this reason i have to be informative.
Hi Woneek,

I note you have repeated your earlier comment. Unfortunately it's still not clear to me what it is you wish to know. Can you rephrase your question?

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Old 01-27-2014, 12:17 AM   #15
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It looks like a google translation.

I guess its a fake account , when he wrote second post with same text , I had no doubt.
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