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Old 11-14-2010, 04:35 AM   #1
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Default 3x20 Colt Scope

Here's a little something to break the "boredom" of uniforms and headgear

In case of small pictures, click to enlarge.

The earlier, US made version:





There were 300 of those made by Colt and sent to Vietnam.
Soon after that, the scopes were made in Japan by a company called Hakko Japan, under Colt licence.

This one is mine:




It has JAPAN stamped on the bottom and manufacturer's logo.


And now, for some period pictures:

Mike Force and LRRPs, circa 1967:






Here on the XM 177:




25th Infantry:


And with silencer:



SF and SOG:




"SOG Sergeant Wiliam Gabbard (left) put a commercial scope atop his CAR-15 and a Colt 3x scope on his point man's weapon (center). With him is Recon Team Georgia teammate Sergeant Cletis Sinyard (right)"




Here you can see 2 of those:
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:03 AM   #2
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Thanks for the great post! I guess the Japanese version made it to Vietnam too?
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:12 AM   #3
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I spoke with a guy on ar15 forum who did some research on the subject, and said one SOG vet told him he used both types, that is with the inverted "spike" (early Colt manufacture) and crosshair (Hakko version).
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Old 11-14-2010, 01:14 PM   #4
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Very cool! This thread brings back memories. I had a 3x20 Colt scope (with crosshairs) mounted on my USAF issue GAU-5 during most of the 1980's. I was the team leader for a "Tactical Neutralization Team" (TNT) for a number of years.

I also once privately owned a Colt 4x20, but I sold it years ago.
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Old 11-14-2010, 02:14 PM   #5
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good post mate.

I am after a scope, been looking for ages...

its a the UK Produced Single Point Scope as used by some SOG guys and the Son Tay raiders (and in Star Wars as well...). anyone out there got one?????

like this
http://media.photobucket.com/image/s...m/DSC01066.jpg
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Old 11-14-2010, 02:56 PM   #6
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Well,

there's this. Possibly of the period, but somewhat out of my comfort zone.

Generates a single dot.

Marked in one place only.
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Old 11-14-2010, 02:57 PM   #7
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Few more details.
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Patrick, that appears to be a very early "Single Point" scope. If I am correct it was made in England and came out in the mid to late 70's. I recall testing one of those.

Edit; I just read post #5.......
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Thanks for the info and thoughts Willi , appreciate it.

As you can understand we are somewhat restricted over here with weapon related items, especially with things from the recent military past.

Makes things difficult on a practical handling level.
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Old 11-14-2010, 09:35 PM   #10
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I will add a couple more to the post. This is the Delft scope the first one used on the AR15 model 601

A Delft on a Colt AR15 model 602 and the USA made Colt scope on a M16
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Armson O.E.G. were made in South Africa. Trijicon's founder, Glyn Bindon also from South Africa, met the designer while visiting home and included the Armson OEG in his inventory.

I had one on a XM177 for awhile, worked fine if you had good eyes, both of them, if not pretty useless. The tritium dot worked very well in low light triple canopy, but went to air at bad times, the latter fiber optics worked the same but didn't go out suddenly.


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Thanks for the info and thoughts Willi , appreciate it.

As you can understand we are somewhat restricted over here with weapon related items, especially with things from the recent military past.

Makes things difficult on a practical handling level.
very nice, that is the one used at Son Tay as it has the rounded end, rather than the squared end as used in Star Wars

is that one you know of for sale as very interested
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is that one you know of for sale as very interested
It is happily part of an XM177 used for display, and will no doubt remain that way for some time to come yet.

It was purchased from a collector who was getting out of collecting and selling things off en masse around 6 years ago. Something said it was worth buying in the back of the mind, but not being either weapon or SF orientated i was never 100% sure but had a good feeling nonetheless.

A little bit of all too rare collector luck.
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It is happily part of an XM177 used for display, and will no doubt remain that way for some time to come yet.

It was purchased from a collector who was getting out of collecting and selling things off en masse around 6 years ago. Something said it was worth buying in the back of the mind, but not being either weapon or SF orientated i was never 100% sure but had a good feeling nonetheless.

A little bit of all too rare collector luck.
oh well worth a try. Keep me in mind just in case
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