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Old 10-13-2010, 03:04 PM   #166
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You have to remember, judging any cloth item from a photo is more or less guesswork anyway. No one is going to put their arse on the line until they handle it and even then... well.
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Old 10-13-2010, 03:39 PM   #167
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Seems that the Hohenstaufen Division had more than it's far share of SS trap M43's.

SS Hauptsturmfuhrer Dr Egon Skalka.


That is the gabardine type (wool or wire piping) with trap insignia.


In the photo posted by Lenny it appears the one I marked #1 in red is also gabardine..Can't say for certain on #2 but looks like gabardine.

A few of them are single button,2 piece insignia types.


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Old 10-13-2010, 03:42 PM   #168
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as period pics of SS M43 with trap seem uncommon,
i just aded this :
in an article in october 1986, in the rewiew "militaria magazine" n°13,
"la felmütze de la waffen-SS 1943-1945", pages 43 to 47,
Eric lefevre indicated than the black backed trap is most frequently encountered on feldgrau M43 caps than the felgrau backed trap.
here is an illustration given in this article :





pic legend is for a 8.Franz.SS-Freiw.Sturmbrigade member, taken in summer 1944.

if it can be used in this debate...

derka


That is a Dachau type,IMO....Have seen 2 of them with black trapazoid applied....Supposedly issued to Foreign volunteers.







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Old 10-13-2010, 04:57 PM   #169
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That is the gabardine type (wool or wire piping) with trap insignia.
Yes, I would agree that the Dr's cap is a Feldgrau gabardine one.

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In the photo posted by Lenny
Bit disapointing that the effort I put into finding interesting photos for the forum to discuss has been overlooked once again.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=403965

That brings me rather neatly to this. Enjoy the rest of the thread guys, I'm tired of researching into this particular type of cap. I've never bought one and never will.
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Old 10-13-2010, 05:24 PM   #170
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Yes, I would agree that the Dr's cap is a Feldgrau gabardine one.



Bit disapointing that the effort I put into finding interesting photos for the forum to discuss has been overlooked once again.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=403965

That brings me rather neatly to this. Enjoy the rest of the thread guys, I'm tired of researching into this particular type of cap. I've never bought one and never will.
well sorry Ben i did NOT remeber where i got the photo from if i knew it was from your thread i would have most certainly attributed it to BenVK just trying to help,your time and research is appreciated
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Old 10-13-2010, 05:52 PM   #171
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No problem Lenny, time to let this one go for me though.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:24 PM   #172
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Great photo in post 162 and 171. I dont believe Ive seen that photo before. The well decorated soldier with EKI and CCC is wearing Dirlewanger collar tab. Isnt there another unit that wore the same tab?
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Old 10-13-2010, 09:59 PM   #173
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This photo is dated 11/44. The insignia is the bevo single roll of teeth.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:30 AM   #174
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Very interesting pic Steve, its a shame there are no factory pics so we can see the construction better,

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Old 10-14-2010, 09:38 AM   #175
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Very interesting thread about M43 panzer caps with trap insignia and HBT lining but unfortunately I have not learned anything useful that is going to help me. Anyway IMO the overall field cap posted in the beginning of this thread is fine and I don’t have a problem with the HBT lining this is not the deciding factor, however, what concerns me is the trap, which looks almost new it just does not blend well with the rest of the field cap. The bottom line is that you as a collector have to be comfortable with what you have……I wish you good luck.
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Old 10-14-2010, 09:47 AM   #176
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This photo is dated 11/44. The insignia is the bevo single roll of teeth.
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wow Steve its looks like sister of my cap,
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:16 PM   #177
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My contribution...a portrait of a soldier of the Frundsberg that I have recently sold and still present in the estand.


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Old 10-14-2010, 02:22 PM   #178
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My contribution...a portrait of a soldier of the Frundsberg that I have recently sold and still present in the estand.


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looks like under the visor is unfinished (Dachau type) ? nice portriat thanks for sharing
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Old 10-15-2010, 03:00 AM   #179
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however, what concerns me is the trap, which looks almost new it just does not blend well with the rest of the field cap.
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Rene, If you have a look the bottom of the trap has worn from rubbing on the cap, the photos do highlight the trap but without flash and in hand the trap does fully match the cap.

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Old 10-15-2010, 03:16 AM   #180
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Looks like its time to warm the camera up.
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