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Old 08-20-2009, 06:10 PM   #1
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Bavarian Officer Pickelhaube...CHEVAULEGERS-REGIMENT Numbers 1 - 3 - 5 - 7 ...Officer's helmet with gilt insignia and, yes, the cocarden are on the wrong sides...Please correct me if this is the wrong ID. Thanks, Ed
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Old 08-20-2009, 07:02 PM   #7
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Ed;
I think you nailed it .......nice helmet!!!!
Boy( Hey Puma/ Slim/ James )Gus has to see this one.

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I'll echo what Jerry said.... It's a fine example.
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Guys, help me out here. The scales are flat, so what makes it a Cav. Haube? Looks like a Reserve Inf. officer to me. What am I missing? Thanks!

Nice one though Is the upper body made of leather?
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[quote=Albert;3442215]Guys, help me out here. The scales are flat, so what makes it a Cav. Haube? Looks like a Reserve Inf. officer to me. What am I missing? Thanks!

It looks just like the 1915 mod. reserve officers with smaller wappen on the front that I have other than that the silk liner on mine is green and my scales have lost their gold paint and are at the base metal zinc in color.Still a very nice helmet.

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Old 08-21-2009, 07:40 AM   #11
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So it's Infantry Reserve (with cross on front)? Ed
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we recently had a nice discussion about this on Pickelhaubes.com

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Q. What is the difference between Bavarian Officer Cavalry, Artillery and Infantry helmets?
A. That is a very interesting question. The key difference is not in the branch the difference is in mounted troops and foot troops. Mounted troops had bigger Wappen. In order to provide unity for the manufacture of helmets after 1914 all Bavarian officers carried rounded chin scales. Prior to that time infantry and foot artillery units carried flat chin scales. "The Kriegsministerium-Verordnungsblatt Nr. 17 of the 20th of February 1914 introduced convex scales for officers of foot troops. The flat scales were permitted to be worn until the 1st of January 1916."
The Johannssen book shows an erstaz helmet with flat chin scales on page 62.
It is not an officer M15 entirely as the chin scales are not mounted on M91 posts. It is very possible that the spike comes off on a bayonet stud as Bavarians had a habit of mixing them. I have the same question as Albert. Is the helmet body leather or fiber?

Definitely reserve officer, probably infantry.
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Helmet body is rigid and may be fiber...smooth all over and different from my leather helmets...no cracking and finish appears different
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Nice lid Ed. I agree with your "fiber" opinion. Usually the fiber flakes off differently than on the leather bodied helmets.
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Guys, help me out here. The scales are flat, so what makes it a Cav. Haube? Looks like a Reserve Inf. officer to me. What am I missing? Thanks!

It looks just like the 1915 mod. reserve officers with smaller wappen on the front that I have other than that the silk liner on mine is green and my scales have lost their gold paint and are at the base metal zinc in color.Still a very nice helmet.

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The one I have can be seen on the Collector's Guild web site.

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