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Old 09-12-2003, 09:52 AM   #1
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Hello,


Here is a picture a promised a few months ago towards my good collecting friend Akira Takguchi => it is a ( unknown ? ) unit sign that is found on a vehicle of the famous MG-Btl. 10 , and offcoarse these guys where also very active inside and outside Cholm during the actual siege


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Old 09-12-2003, 09:54 AM   #2
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And here is the actual sign => could it be .................. ????????



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Old 09-12-2003, 10:26 AM   #3
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Thank you Stijn, this is a great gift for Truppenkennzeichen-lover; as far as I know, this is the first report of the unit marking of this less known unit!
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Great => and my dear fellow collector's, it is Akira that recognized this unit sign as such !!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Old 09-21-2003, 10:03 AM   #5
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Well, after a couple of weeks I have concluded that Stijn has discovered another inaccuracy in Schmitz/Thies's unit marking books (please note that I am not condemning their work, on the contrary! Without their books, I would have zero clue to many things!).

I remembered having seen the insignia somewhere --- and I finally discovered it today! It is on page 37 of the magnificient photo history book by ex-Kriegsberichter Georg Gundlach's "Kesselschlacht Wolchow" (291.Infanterie-Division). But there is a small difference from Stijn's picture --- a white crank is found over the Truppenkennzeichen. What is it?

Because M.G.Btl.10 was a Heerestruppe (subordinated to an Armeekorps, not to a division), it is quite normal to see Armeekorps (A.K.) marking along with its own insignia. So we can assume that this crank is for the A.K!
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Old 09-21-2003, 10:06 AM   #6
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Now, take a look at this excerpt from Sch/Th Band 4 --- 4 insignia variants for 291.Infanterie-Division. Can you see the shared component? Yes, the crank!
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Old 09-21-2003, 10:11 AM   #7
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In June 1941, both 291.Infanterie-Division and M.G.Btl.10 were subordinated to XXVI Armeekorps. And the geometric insignia for XXVI A.K. is not shown in Sch/Th.

This leads me to conclude that the insignia (2) for 291.Inf.-Div. shown in Sch/Th is actually that of XXVI A.K! Please correct your copy of Sch/Th, if you have one and agree with me!

Good find and thanks, Stijn!

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Old 09-21-2003, 10:21 AM   #8
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P.S. - A similar crank (two bars pasted with a circle) was used by X A.K., which is shown in my webpage (http://www.ne.jp/asahi/wwii/panzer/i...zeuge-X.AK.jpg)

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Hello Akira,


You are the one , very interesting information



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