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Old 01-31-2008, 02:08 PM   #1
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Default 1959 austrian camo parka & trousers

Hi everyone,

Can you help me with these items?

I'd like to learn more about this 1959 camo parka. Made for paratroopers or for everyone? (look at red circle).











Now look at the trousers. I add they come from directly from a friend's military stock and not from a collector, so I'd like to know what you think about the marks of black marker pen on the camo pattern ? Common practice ? Or trousers worn by a fashion soldier ? Or worn by a soldier who thought it looked more SS camo pattern with these marks ?








All links to austrian militaria websites and books are welcome !
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Old 01-31-2008, 04:28 PM   #2
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Wachregiment,

Interesting uniform. I haven't seen a parka like this before in Austrian camo. It could be for paras as Austria started training a small numbers of paras for special missions in 60/61. As for the pants, only the guy who used the black marker knows for sure.

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Old 01-31-2008, 05:48 PM   #3
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Hi Gordon,

I'd like very much to have the complete uniform (equipment on it!) but it's very hard to find informations about this militaria ! Even on ebay there is very few items !



PS : i've seen lots of BW collectibles from you on this forum, very beautiful !!

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Old 01-31-2008, 07:16 PM   #4
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In the early 1960s, the Bundes­minis­ter­ium für Landes­ver­teidig­ung ('Federal Ministry for National Defense') approved the intro­duct­ion of new camouflage uniforms for use by the Öster­reichs Bundes­heer ('Federal Army of Austria').
Sometimes called Austrian Erbsenmuster ('pea pattern') because it bears some resemblance to late-war SS-Erbsenmuster, Fleckerlteppich is a five-colour camouflage, comprising black, brown, medium green and medium grey spots on a tan background, which has a distinctly pinkish cast.
The Österreichs Bundesheer dis­con­tinu­ed the use of camouflage uni­forms in 1978, preferring, instead, a solid green uniform for its soldiers. However, instances of this camouflage pattern continue to be worn by Austrian military snipers.
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Old 01-31-2008, 07:57 PM   #5
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thanks for these details
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Old 02-01-2008, 01:11 AM   #6
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Wachregiment,

I have a few pieces of the Austrian camo but not one like you posted. There used to be a lot of this type of camo clothing for sale several years ago but you don't see much around any more. Good luck in your search for more piece of Austrian camo.
Lawrence Strong has provided most ot the information about these uniforms. I would have included it in my post but I thought that you allready knew that.
One thing I can mention. You can find this camo pattern in a soft peaked cap similar to the German M43 style. These were never made by Austria or worn by their troops. They were made after the uniform was no longer worn and stocks of unused material had been sold.

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Old 02-01-2008, 04:45 AM   #7
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Note that my items are "stark getragen", and compared with items "wie neu", the pattern was the same.

Only the early construction is different (the pockets for example).
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Old 02-01-2008, 07:22 AM   #8
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One pic :
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Old 02-01-2008, 08:13 AM   #9
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here are some pics of what ive pieced together , the only camo piece i seem to be missing is the Gas Mask Bag , ive seen a couple for sale on eBay Germany , but the shipping is three times the cost of the bag ,so i will wait , i think i have the rest , as for a list of the camo parts ive found so far , they include :
parka

pants


gaiters

canteen cover

bread bag

back pack

E tool carrier


gas mask bag



after i took the pics below ,i found a proper belt (used an east german for the pics) and the proper leather STG58 mag pouches ,most of the gear is very similar to American stuff of the period.





Last edited by panzerwerk; 07-14-2009 at 05:30 PM. Reason: Fix pictures
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Panzerwerk,

Nice foto of the complete kit. What model helmet did you use?


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Old 02-01-2008, 09:48 AM   #11
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Thanks !
it was purchased as Austrian , to be honest ,i have not really looked for stamps and markings , but here's a couple pics , BTW all the other gear is stamped between the early 60's into the 70's .




If i can help with any other pics , please just ask .

on a side note , from what ive read , this camo is still in use with reservists at least until the mid late 90's , its also used as "bad guy" clothing for police and terrorist training .
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Old 02-01-2008, 09:57 AM   #12
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Very nice

have you put w web belt on it? Or were there leather belts in the 60's ?


and what about the boots? Can you post detailed pictures please ?

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a last question : are there any particular stamps into the helmet?
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helmet net?
Old 02-01-2008, 10:07 AM   #14
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does your helmet net have an elastic band or draw string?

I have a helmet net that I think may be Austrian that looks like the net on your helmet and it has a elastic band.
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Old 02-01-2008, 10:20 AM   #15
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I see which helmet net you are talking about ! I've ever seen some of them : I think they are well austrian, but are more later production (70's, 80's?)
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