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Old 12-28-2007, 02:01 AM   #1
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Dear all,

I have seen only a single photograph of the Ahnenerbe "life-rune" actually being worn on a uniform, this one: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...ight=ahnenerbe

Any tips about books and websites with more examples of the life-rune" being worn would be much appreciated.

A close-up of the patch would be interesting too.

Also, is there any indication that Ahnenerbe members ever wore field-grey? Of course, those who switched to the Waffen-SS, like Bruno Beger, did (After Ahnenerbe he was in "Handschar"). I mean if staff on the Ahnenerbe ever wore field-grey? Again, which books and websites could be recommended...

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Old 04-19-2008, 01:13 AM   #2
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if you look in hayes ss uniforms accrouments and stuff (cant remember the rest and a little to drunk right now) on page 28 you see a guy with it, i would be more then glad to take a pic and email it to some one if they want so they can post it
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Old 04-19-2008, 08:26 AM   #3
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I thought the Leben rune was an earlier first aid/Red Cross trained indicator?

I know it was used for HJ, BDM, and SA as well as an armband.

I know the symbol was in the SS logs/lists and could be checked off similar to the boxes for an honour ring, etc. Always figured this was for first aid qualified too.

Interesting and look forward to learning more.
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That Guy looks like Sgt. Schulz, your killing me he cannot be real. He's like a Nazi Forrest Gump and he ate all the chocolates.
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Old 04-19-2008, 08:59 AM   #5
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Lars,
You may want to check page 4 of this thread for documentation on the badge you mention.
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=lebensrune
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Old 04-19-2008, 06:04 PM   #6
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That's a photo of Alfred Arnold a close friend of Himmler's. He does look like Schultz though!
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Old 04-27-2008, 02:49 PM   #7
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I thought the Leben rune was an earlier first aid/Red Cross trained indicator?:confused
Yep, in the Osprey guide on the SA 1921-1945 it says the life rune denoted medical chaps in the SA and illustrate this in plate F with man no 3, a medical Standartenfuehrer.

So, could it have meant two things? Or is Osprey wrong???



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Old 04-28-2008, 01:51 AM   #8
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That Guy looks like Sgt. Schulz, your killing me he cannot be real. He's like a Nazi Forrest Gump and he ate all the chocolates.
Sgt. Shultz says "Jolly Joker"
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So, could it have meant two things? Or is Osprey wrong???



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I have a RAD leben rune, an HJ leben rune and an SA leben rune, all made for the left lower arm of the uniform. I don't think there were this many branches of the Ahnenerbe...
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I have a RAD leben rune, an HJ leben rune and an SA leben rune, all made for the left lower arm of the uniform. I don't think there were this many branches of the Ahnenerbe...
Many thanks for your feedback.

Shall we conclude then, that there was no Ahnenerbe uniform insignia?

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That must be the guy who was in charge of cake quality and control for the SS.

The Rune is for the Main office (hence RFSS) of the Race and Rehabilitation Office, the Ahnerbe was a different entity.
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The Lebensrune was used as a medical insignia for the HJ, BdM, SA, etc. but apparently the SS had their own insignia and used it differently.
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It is identified on page 29 in the 1st Mollo Volume on Allegemine SS insignia. SS used the Army Medical specialists insignia on black for Sanis and other enlisted medical specialists etc. The Ahnenerbe was the Studiengesellschaft für Geistesurgeschichte‚ Deutsches Ahnenerbe, this was a different department focusing mostly on archaeology and history. etc. Most of the people working in the Ahnenerbe were civilians. This is the symbol for it.
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Old 05-04-2008, 01:44 PM   #15
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for the book side there was 2 different symbols used the one above and the irmunsul one (i know the spelling of it is wrong) they cover the difference between the 2 in himmlers camelot, one was study of the past and the other was used teaching
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