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Old 04-26-2006, 10:49 PM   #1
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Not sure if this is the correct forum..but anyhow...

I am reading an auto-biography on Herman Goering at the moment (its v good too) and in it it is claimed that after ww2 approx 400 Nazis were executed as a result of the the Nuremburg trials.

Now i know that all the prominent Nazis were hung and some too from the "Doctors trials" but is this figure of a total of 400 correct?

I have tried looking for info but its not easy to find.

any input appreciated
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Old 04-27-2006, 03:54 AM   #2
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I didn't know that Goring wrote an auto biography , when was it published ?
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Old 04-27-2006, 05:22 AM   #3
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Are you sure its an autobiography. Must have had a ghost writer . Get it....a ghost writer.......ok, never mind.
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Ooops sorry i ment biography. Its by Willi Frischauer and was published in 1950 i think.

Yes apparently Goering did write and auto-bio though, sometime before WW2 if i remember correctly.
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Not sure if this is the correct forum..but anyhow...

I am reading an auto-biography on Herman Goering at the moment (its v good too) and in it it is claimed that after ww2 approx 400 Nazis were executed as a result of the the Nuremburg trials.

Now i know that all the prominent Nazis were hung and some too from the "Doctors trials" but is this figure of a total of 400 correct?

I have tried looking for info but its not easy to find.

any input appreciated
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There were a number of different trials that are collectively known as The Nuremberg Trials. The major trial was the "Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the International Military Tribunal", held 20.Nov 1945-01.Oct 1946. This was the trial of the 24 men accused of 'war crimes' and included Hermann Goering, Hess, Kaltenbrunner, Schlacht, Keitel, Jodl etc etc. Of the 24 accused, 11 were executed. Subsequent to this trial were a series of 12 trials from 1946-49 that included the Doctor's Trial, the Einsatzgruppen Trial etc etc. The verdicts of these trials resulted in 24 death sentences with 13 of these verdicts executed. The number of 400 may include the deaths of individual SS men captured at various camps and executed 'on the spot' by former inmates or Allied troops as retaliation. Not sure of the source of the 400, IMHO, the true number of such 'executions' will never be known. Hope this helps.
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Old 04-28-2006, 02:03 AM   #6
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Here is some info I got off the net (wikipeadia):


The twelve U.S. trials before the NMT took place from December 9, 1946 to April 13, 1949. The trials were:

The Doctors' Trial

The Milch Trial

The Judges' Trial

The Pohl Trial

The Flick Trial

The IG Farben Trial

The Hostages Trial

The RuSHA Trial

The Einsatzgruppen Trial

The Krupp Trial

The Ministries Trial

The High Command Trial



In total, of the 185 defendants 142 were found guilty of at least one of the charges. 24 persons received death sentences, of which 11 were subsequently converted into lifetime imprisonments; 20 were sentenced to lifetime imprisonment, 98 were handed down prison sentences of varying lengths, and 35 were acquitted. Four defendants had to be removed from trials due to illness, and four more committed suicide during the trials.


Yes seems like there is no "400" executed at these trials but then again finding proper information about certain topics from WW2 can be difficult

Summary executions were common and id say plenty were undocumented.
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What did Goering do wrong? And Jodl. They did nothing wrong IMHO.
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What did Goering do wrong? And Jodl. They did nothing wrong IMHO.
Surely.........you jest........ .
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What did them two do
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Here is just one source of information.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...efendants.html

Herman Goering....come on, it's fairly obvious. Alfred Jodl....I think the way that some of these campaigns were "executed" lay squarely at the feet of the person signing the orders for the campaigns. he as most all of the others, tried the "I didn't know" BS argument. Hmmmmm, let's see, you were a member of the high command, and you didn't know- yea right.They were just good little soldiers, carrying out orders blindly, and were completely clueless and without fault.

I hope your screen name is not an indicator of sympathies towards these murders....
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HELL NO!!! I have had a friend who survived auschwitz and many jewish friends. every body where I live hates Jews exept me and my family. I would never be sympathetic toward these people who commited murder. You remided me that he was a high command member though. But people like Erich Raeder. He was sentenced to life. He never killed nobody. He was the one who refused to discharge jewish seamen. How was he a criminal. I mean kaltenbrunner he was a criminal. Hans Frank was a criminal. I never will or have sympathized with Hitler. I love Germany is my traditional home land and Hitler was a butcher who only put a bad face on Germany and he led Germany to destruction and hurt the people. What about Julius Striecher he was an idiot but he had no crimes on him he didnt even have power.

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HELL NO!!! I have had a friend who survived auschwitz and many jewish friends. every body where I live hates Jews exept me and my family. I would never be sympathetic toward these people who commited murder. You remided me that he was a high command member though. But people like Erich Raeder. He was sentenced to life. He never killed nobody. He was the one who refused to discharge jewish seamen. How was he a criminal.
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In Ohio??? Very disturbing indeed.

I don't know the specifics of Raeder, you will have to research the details. But I think the thinking was at the time (and now), is that NOT directly having a hand in any specific crime or action that was in direct violation of human rights and/or the Geneva convention, did not excuse the fact that these individuals were in a position of authority in a regime that carried out the will of the Fuhrer to systematically exterminate various races and conquer the world..... in my mind, there really is nothing here to be surprised about or debate????

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But Hitler was a hardhead he wouldnt have listened to Erich raeder he hated the navy. Hitler would never have listend to him.
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But Hitler was a hardhead he wouldnt have listened to Erich raeder he hated the navy. Hitler would never have listend to him.
So basically what you are saying is, if you can't reason with the devil, then carry out his wishes so that you can keep your position? I think that "reasoning" is a strong enough indictment in itself.
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You're right. What do you think Himmler wouldve gotten or Hitler had they survived. The resistance members being killed is alright because in the Geneva Convention if no one has a uniform or is a irregular fighter then they are exempt from its protections.
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