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Old 03-22-2006, 07:10 AM   #1
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Here is a very nice and original Large Silver Bravery Medal of the FJ period. Also the recipient was decorated twice by the presence of the bar on the ribbon
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:11 AM   #2
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and the reverse
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:13 AM   #3
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and a quick look at the makers mark - its an 'A' within a circle - a very common makers mark found on Bravery Medals and Signum Laudis Medals. The one thing that strikes me about this piece is the detail and quality of construction - a few dings and dents here and there - but it was worn!
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nice coin
Old 03-22-2006, 09:50 AM   #4
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Default nice coin

I'm a big fan of the large FJ medal. This one does have nice detail. It looks a lot like the one I owned at one time. (no, this is not that one. Mine didn't have the bar on top) In my AH collection, the large FJ medal always stood out above the small bronze FJs and even the wound medals.

As for the few dings and scratches, they're not distracting.

Thanks for showing it. Now I sad I sold mine. I'll get over it.
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Old 03-22-2006, 12:45 PM   #5
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To add something for a contrast, here's my much more common Kaiser Karl bravery. Fortitudini = Tapferkeit in Latin. You can see it Kautsch is the maker as noted under the name.
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Sorry, the only picture I have of the back is a bit blurry.
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Old 03-22-2006, 02:55 PM   #7
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Just for some more info - Kautsch was not the maker, but rather the name of the court sculptor of the time the medal was instituted.
Here is a breakdown of the sculptors and time periods -
1849 and 1859 - K. LANGE (Konrad Lange)
1866 and 1914 - Lrg. Bravery- LEISEK (Friedrich Leisek) Small Bravery - TAUTENHAYN (Josef Tautenhayn)

For the Karoly era (1916 onwards)
1916 KAUTSCH for all bravery medals except the Lrg Golden Barvery Medal whose sculptor was PETZL

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oops.

Thanks for setting me straight.
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Old 03-22-2006, 04:37 PM   #9
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Hi - no problem - wasnt trying to give a black eye. As for maker marks, now that is an interesting problem, like the maker marks of Imperial German items, not much is known. "A" seems to be a common maker and I am guessing that it was the mark of the main military supplyer (like KO is for Prussia). There are other marks such as WSA, WAA, FA, KS, HM, GW, HMA, W2, B, and 'others' (according to my sources) Also you will find silver and gold plated medals with BRONZ stampped on the rim signifying that it is a plated piece. But I have only seen this on the latter Karoly IV items and the Horthy items.
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Old 03-23-2006, 06:35 AM   #10
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and a quick look at the makers mark - its an 'A' within a circle - a very common makers mark found on Bravery Medals and Signum Laudis Medals...
@eindecker, i have one thing to add the 'A' hallmark shows that the medal was issued by the Hauptmünzamt in Vienna and is made of pure silver or Gold. it also appears on gold-pieces that habe been issued by the central mint.

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Wow! Thanks for that info - do you have any other information about the other maker marks? None of my reference material gives any names behind the codes.
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Old 03-23-2006, 03:04 PM   #12
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@eindecker, i have one thing to add the 'A' hallmark shows that the medal was issued by the Hauptmünzamt in Vienna and is made of pure silver or Gold. it also appears on gold-pieces that habe been issued by the central mint.

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The A in a circle is not a maker's mark. As haynau notes, it indicates that the medal was made of Edelmetall,or precious metal, which would in most cases be silver or gold. It was commonly used by the Hauptmünzamt on medals like the gold and silver bravery medals.

Austrian decorations could carry a variety of marks, including ones for content (Feingehaltspunze), government inspector (Kontrollamtszeichen) and manufacturer (Herstellermarke). The content marks were for gold and silver, and included stamps of various heads (e.g., Apollo, chamois and fox for gold; Diana, greyhound and lion for silver). Kontrollamtszeichen were letters or letter/number combinations, and often appear in conjunction with a Herstellermarke, since the maker's work would need to be inspected.

There is no comprehensive list of marks for Austrian awards, but here are some:

Kontrollamtszeichen:
A - Wien (Vienna)
A1 - Wiener Neustadt
A2 - Sankt Pölten
A3 - Waidhofen an der Ybbs
A5 - Krems
A6 - Brünn (Brno, Czech Republic)
A8 - Olmütz (Olomouc, Czech Republic)
A10 - Troppau (Opava, Czech Republic)
A11 - Teschen (Cieszyn, Poland and Český Těšín, Czech Republic)
B - Linz
B1 - Steyr
B3 - Braunau
B4 - Salzburg
C - Prag (Praha or Prague, Czech Republic)
C2 - Teplitz (Teplice, Czech Republic)
C3 - Karlsbad (Karlovy Vary, Czech Republic)
C5 - Budweis (Budějovice, Czech Republic)
D - Brünn (Brno, Czech Republic)
D2 - Olmütz (Olomouc, Czech Republic)
D3 - Troppau (Opava, Czech Republic)
E - Krakau (Kraków, Poland)
E1 - Biala (Biała, Poland)
E3 - Tarnow (Tarnów, Poland)
E5 - Neu Sandec (Nowy Sącz, Poland)
F - Lemberg (Lviv, Ukraine)
F1 - Przemysl (Przemyśl, Poland)
F5 - Czernowitz (Chernivtsi, Ukraine)
G - Graz
G1 - Marburg (Maribor, Slovenia)
G2 - Klagenfurt
G3 - Laibach (Ljubljana, Slovenia)
H - Hall in Tirol (1867-72); Bregenz (1872-)
H1 - Bregenz (1867-72); Innsbruck (1872-)
H2 - Bozen (Bolzano, Italy)
H3 - Trient (Trento, Italy)
K - Klagenfurt
L - Laibach (Ljubljana, Slovenia)
M - Triest (Trieste, Italy)
M1 - Görz (Gorizia, Italy)
M3 - Zara (Zadar, Croatia)
M5 - Ragusa (Dubrovnik, Croatia)
N - Zara (Zadar, Croatia)
N1 - Spalato (Split, Croatia)
N2 - Ragusa (Dubrovnik, Croatia)
P - Pest (now part of Budapest, Hungary)
P1 - Erlau (Eger, Hungary)
P4 - Pressburg (Bratislava, Slovakia)
P5 - Raab (Győr, Hungary)
P6 - Ödenburg (Sopron, Hungary)
R - Kaschau (Košice, Slovakia)
R1 - Eperjes (Prešov, Slovakia)
R4 - Debreczin (Debrecen, Hungary)
T - Temesvar (Timişoara, Romania)
T2 - Neusatz (Novi Sad, Serbia)
T3 - Arad (Arad, Romania)
U - Carlsburg (Alba Iulia, Romania)
U1 - Klausenburg (Cluj, Romania)
U4 - Hermannstadt (Sibiu, Romania)
V - Agram (Zagreb, Croatia)
V2 - Fiume (Rijeka, Croatia)

Herstellermarke:
AEK - A.E. Köchert Ordensjuwelier, Wien
WK - Wilhelm Kunz, Wien
VM - Vinzenz Mayer's Söhne, Wien
VMS - Vinzenz Mayer's Söhne, Wien
CFR - C.F. Rothe & Neffe, Wien
FR - C.F. Rothe & Neffe, Wien
R&F - Rozet & Fischmeister, Wien
GAS - G.A. Scheid, Wien
WW - Wiener Werkstätte
JZ - Josef Zimbler, Wien
W&A - Winter & Adler, Wien

Besides W&A, quite a few different maker's marks are seen on Karl-Truppen-Kreuz including: HMA, MSB, KMT, MKL and MMA. HMA might be the Hauptmünzamt. No idea about the others.
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Thank you so much!

After checking yesterday, I have a WuA on a wound metal which I assume is "Winter und Adler".
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Pulled out my microscope and took some pictures. Sorry about the lighting, I'm still trying to figure that out. The resolution of the camera isn't that great either.

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