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Old 04-05-2017, 12:23 PM   #31
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I now wonder if the AZG3 (later called ZVG125) could be the partially hidden box on the operator right panel. The switch on top would allow having either the FuG16 or FuG125 use the AFN2 instrument.
I don't think so, according to the schematic it has two relays (only one of which is actually used). The relay is operated in parallel with the relay in the ZVG16, so when the ZVG16 is actuated, it automatically switches the AFN/2 instrument from FuG125 to the FuG16Z.

I first thought they had used a standard Adb sized box for the AZG3, but the sizes in the manual do not correspond to any of the Adb sizes....

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Old 04-18-2017, 08:01 AM   #32
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Thanks FS,

So the mysterious Adb type box not yet identified.

Another riddle is the round "device" fixed to the right side of the FuG16 frame. You can see a shielded cable going into it, but probably the front part missing.

On the other hand, the plane was fitted with the K22/23 autopilot. I recently saw in a book a picture of two boxes fitted to the cockpit external wall, one with cover marked K4 and the other one without cover but definitely looking like the LKM12 mischgerät.

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Old 04-18-2017, 02:03 PM   #33
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The instrument to the right seems to be a round isntrument with a number a lights in it, not entirely sure either what it is, perhaps a warning from the radar installation.

I do not know the photographs of the autopilot boxes, so I can't help you there. Perhaps you can pm me a scan?

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Old 04-19-2017, 02:35 AM   #34
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Hello FS,

Will do, but I'm in the middle of a refurbishing in the house. Scanner is not reachable currently.

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Old 04-19-2017, 05:08 AM   #35
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Very useful links to our discussion:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...Q0ckhSUVNla3Z3
and one more:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...lpRHI2cUp6UDhR

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Old 04-19-2017, 07:12 AM   #36
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Piotr,

Fantastic !
Thanks a lot for sharing.

Will take time to go through all pics.
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Old 04-19-2017, 07:50 AM   #37
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Well,

1) The device on the side of the FuG16 frame looks like a big "brechkupplung".
Would make sense to connect a device hanging from the canopy, in case you have to jettison it to jump out. The Psh printer ???

2) More K22/23 boxes are fixed on both sides of the pilot seat back. I see K3 and another widerstand kasten.

3) the backplanes for the radios look more like pressed steel plates to me.

4) But were are the Umformers ???

Thanks again Piotr for the link.

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Old 04-19-2017, 12:46 PM   #38
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Very nice pictures, thanks for posting the link.

Indeed the device next to the FuG16zy is a connector, probably for the FuG 125 Hellscrhreiber mounted in the canopy.

So far, I spotted three pieces of autopilot, the "Richtungsgeber" in the control stick, the K3 box, which appears to be the "Ergänzungsgerät" (integrator) of the autopilot and the internals of the "Wiederstandskasten". This all points at a K22 Jägersteuerung having been fitted.

I need to study the details further, it should be possible to identify the mount for the autopilot rudder servo and perhaps some other components crop up!

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Old 04-19-2017, 12:51 PM   #39
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Yes, I spotted the LRM12 rudder servo, it is still fitted in the tail section. Definately K22!

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Old 04-19-2017, 01:06 PM   #40
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A "K-1" box and the "Mischgerät" of the K22 are still present in one of the wheel wells. Also visible higher up in the wheel well are the damping gyro and the vertical g sensor of the autopilot. It looks like the K22 autopilot is still there for the most part...

The K-1 and K-3 boxes look similar, I am not sure now which one is the "Ergänzungsgerät", probably K-1. Not sure what the other box would be though....

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Old 04-20-2017, 04:20 AM   #41
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According to the "Geratelist":

K3 Ergänzungsgerät LEG2
K5 Mischgerät LKM12
K1 Widerstandkasten LKW12
K4 Widerstandkasten LKW22
K7 Dämpfungslagenkreisel LDK11
K9 Normalkraftmesser LNK1
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Old 04-20-2017, 04:35 AM   #42
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I must say I faill to see the LDK11 higher up the wheel well.
I see the two voltage regulators of the turbine generators...
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Old 04-20-2017, 08:44 AM   #43
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Ah, ok

Under the voltage regulators.
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Old 04-20-2017, 11:59 AM   #44
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According to the "Geratelist":

K3 Ergänzungsgerät LEG2
K5 Mischgerät LKM12
K1 Widerstandkasten LKW12
K4 Widerstandkasten LKW22
K7 Dämpfungslagenkreisel LDK11
K9 Normalkraftmesser LNK1
It seems what I identified next to the Mischgerät as K1 is probably K4, the number is partially obscured by wiring....

So K3 "Ergänzungsgerät" and K1 "Wiederstandkasten LKW12" are fitted left and right behind the pilot's seat.

So apart from some covers, the resistors from the "Mischgerät", a PFK-f3 compass repeater and the "Mutterkompaß", the K22 autopilot appears to be complete.

The search is still on for the missing Umformers....

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Old 04-21-2017, 03:38 AM   #45
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Fantastic photos on the Google Photos link provided by piters77.

Thank You !

Where is that ME262 and what is the story being told in the photos?

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