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Old 03-03-2020, 06:08 AM   #3091
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I wonder when the picture with three bars drop container could have been taken? I see there FJ soldier with folding shovel - Klappspaten. I try to determine if FJ were the first to use folding shovels in combat?

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Old 03-06-2020, 04:11 AM   #3092
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I wonder when the picture with three bars drop container could have been taken? I see there FJ soldier with folding shovel - Klappspaten. I try to determine if FJ were the first to use folding shovels in combat?
I mean this picture.
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Old 03-07-2020, 02:42 PM   #3093
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The folding shovel (Klappspaten) was introduced as a standard model 12 November 1938 for the entire Wehrmacht so I don't think you would be able to establish that the Fallschirmjaeger were the first to use it in Combat considering the invasion of Poland took place 1 September 1939 and Fallschirmjaegers were not opposed in Combat until the invasion of Norway on 9 April 1940.





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Old 03-08-2020, 12:47 AM   #3094
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The folding shovel (Klappspaten) was introduced as a standard model 12 November 1938 for the entire Wehrmacht so I don't think you would be able to establish that the Fallschirmjaeger were the first to use it in Combat considering the invasion of Poland took place 1 September 1939 and Fallschirmjaegers were not opposed in Combat until the invasion of Norway on 9 April 1940.
I believe there was some FJ combat in Poland by II/FJR1 in Wola Gułowska on 24th of September 1939 (8 dead and 13 wounded). However, in all photos from this event (at least the ones that I know) FJs used straight shovels.
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I stand corrected I believe the I/ and II/FJR 1 were air landed at Dublin and other airfields near Dukla Pass but only some units under II/FJR 1 were involved in any fighting receiving their first casualties in the war against a Polish Artillery Regiment in Wola Gułowska. I will have to check my FJ photo archives as I do have some photos from their operation in Poland. I believe I posted them in one of my threads here.


(QUOTE=kiler;8662932]I believe there was some FJ combat in Poland by II/FJR1 in Wola Gułowska on 24th of September 1939 (8 dead and 13 wounded). However, in all photos from this event (at least the ones that I know) FJs used straight shovels.[/QUOTE]
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Old 03-08-2020, 06:19 AM   #3096
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No matter how they reached battlefield, they were Fallschirmjager and had proper equipment and uniforms. Here are some pictures from Wola Gułowska - September 1939. I am strongly interested in equipment from that time.


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I stand corrected I believe the I/ and II/FJR 1 were air landed at Dublin and other airfields near Dukla Pass but only some units under II/FJR 1 were involved in any fighting receiving their first casualties in the war against a Polish Artillery Regiment in Wola Gułowska. I will have to check my FJ photo archives as I do have some photos from their operation in Poland. I believe I posted them in one of my threads here.


(QUOTE=kiler;8662932]I believe there was some FJ combat in Poland by II/FJR1 in Wola Gułowska on 24th of September 1939 (8 dead and 13 wounded). However, in all photos from this event (at least the ones that I know) FJs used straight shovels.
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Old 03-14-2020, 12:56 PM   #3097
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pzo...check out pages 112 (#1674 & #1676) & 117 (#1745) of this thread. I had posted negatives of fallschirmjaeger in Poland.

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[QUOTE=pzo;8663117]No matter how they reached battlefield, they were Fallschirmjager and had proper equipment and uniforms. Here are some pictures from Wola Gułowska - September 1939. I am strongly interested in equipment from that time.
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Juraver...Welcome to this thread and thank you for sharing your photos with us.
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Old 03-21-2020, 03:17 AM   #3102
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I posted this one in an old thread, nice to see white camo leather stuff and rifles.
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Old 03-21-2020, 06:30 AM   #3103
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Bill,
Thanks for pointing out some great negatives-pictures! Good luck, happy collecting and stay in good health. Avoid C virus! Best, kill it with vodka.

[QUOTE=W Petz;8673720]pzo...check out pages 112 (#1674 & #1676) & 117 (#1745) of this thread. I had posted negatives of fallschirmjaeger in Poland.

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Pzo....Thank you for your kind words....I'm definitely working on avoiding the Corona virus. I even have some Polish Vodka given to me by my friend John who is married to a beautiful Polish Girl..Gosia. Her father was a Colonel in the Polish Army when your country was under the influence of Communism.


[QUOTE=pzo;8673921]Bill,
Thanks for pointing out some great negatives-pictures! Good luck, happy collecting and stay in good health. Avoid C virus! Best, kill it with vodka.

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Old 04-18-2020, 02:13 PM   #3105
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