Krimschild Panzer Backing

[Spencer]

Krimschild Panzer Backing

This is the only photo I have - can you tell whether this is real or not?

Thanks for your help

Spencer

[Tim B.]

Shield looks original but the backing looks awful new and probably replaced. Need to see the reverse.

Tim

[Spencer]

Tim

Thanks - I will see if I can get a photo of the reverse.

Spencer

[Spencer]

The best photo I can get of the reverse.

Thanks

Spencer

[JustinG]

I would like to understand why you made the Identification of Panzer vs being a possible Kriegsmarine issued Kuban?

Regards,
JustinG

[Spencer]

It is being represented to me as a Panzer Krim -

[Tim B.]

Hi Spencer,

Usually, this specific style of Krim is seen on Heer green or gray-green backing material. So, anything other than that would make me look harder at it.

I have not personally seen this style Krim on either KM or Panzer backing before, not saying they aren't out there, I just don't remember seeing an example with those backings. Panzer black backings are very seldom seen and KM dark blue and sometimes dark Navy blue (black) are less often encountered as well but, as Justin hinted at, more often seen than an actual legit Panzer-backed shield.

On this one, the concerns I have, is the backing paper appears very neatly cut along the outline of the shield/back plate. Normally, the paper backing would extend all the way out to the edge of the cloth backing or show signs of being worn or torn around the edges. This one doesn't have that and makes me think it was recently glued on.

Based on that, I would venture to say the backing has been replaced with a black colored cloth and then the paper backing reglued over the new cloth. Why? Panzer = more money.

Tim

[Tim B.]

Here's my example of the same style Krim. Notice how the paper extends to the outer edge. This is what I would expect to see, or at least paper remnants along the edges.

Tim

[hlynur76]

Original or not, I don´t know.

But this shield looks awful new to my eyes.

[Tim B.]

I heard a rumor that several of these particular style were found in a warehouse a few years back. I've also seen a few of these for sale on Huss' site over the last two years.