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Old 01-20-2019, 11:51 AM   #31
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Here all speak about reproductions and fakes. It would be desirable to understand a shoulder strap on examples in what here distinctions with originals? I do not see any red flags.
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:57 AM   #32
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The more skillfully made and convincing reproductions are, the more I despise them and the people who make them and those who sell them. Am I correct that it has been suggested that this seller is also suspected of being the creator of these offerings?
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Old 01-20-2019, 12:05 PM   #33
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Am I correct that it has been suggested that this seller is also suspected of being the creator of these offerings?
That’s the vibe I was getting. I sure hope that if this is case, there is proof. This is a huge accusation that is extremely damaging if false.

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Old 01-20-2019, 03:52 PM   #34
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The more skillfully made and convincing reproductions are, the more I despise them and the people who make them and those who sell them. Am I correct that it has been suggested that this seller is also suspected of being the creator of these offerings?
Ich warte auch auf eine Offenbarung über meine Lederfabrik in Hamburg

I'm also waiting for a revelation about my leather factory in Hamburg
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Old 01-20-2019, 04:10 PM   #35
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Danke Tim für deine Meinung.
Ich hätte einige Fragen noch.

1. Gab es spezielle Schulterklappen bestimmt für ein Heeres-Tropenhemd ?

2. Du kennst bestimmt den Namen von Andrew Mollo
Seine Sammlung wurde verkauft
und da waren einige Sachen,
die nach verwendeten Stoffen "nicht echt" sind
Wie kannst du den Herrn Mollo bezeichnen ?

3. Wenn ich die Riemen von genannten Tropen-Schulterklappen abschneide, sind die Reste nach deiner Meinung echt?

Danke

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Thanks Tim for your opinion.
I still had some questions.

1. were there special shoulder straps intended for an Heer tropical shirt?

2. you know determines the name of Andrew Mollo
His collection was sold
and there were a few things
you are after used materials "not real"
How can you describe the Mister Mollo?

3. If I cut off the strap of these tropical epaulettes, are the remains real for your opinion?

Thank you
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:55 PM   #36
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:08 PM   #37
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Here all speak about reproductions and fakes. It would be desirable to understand a shoulder strap on examples in what here distinctions with originals? I do not see any red flags.

Thanks for your comment
While i do not want to go into the ABC's of tropical straps. The difference in details between these straps and originals has already been stated in this thread... details.
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Old 01-20-2019, 10:32 PM   #38
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The more skillfully made and convincing reproductions are, the more I despise them and the people who make them and those who sell them. Am I correct that it has been suggested that this seller is also suspected of being the creator of these offerings?
Agree that knowingly selling fakes as originals is despicable.
Do not know who is the "creator" of these tropical straps recently appearing ?

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Old 01-20-2019, 10:51 PM   #39
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That’s the vibe I was getting. I sure hope that if this is case, there is proof. This is a huge accusation that is extremely damaging if false.
Agree Paul, it's one thing to offer fakes for sale, can happen. It's another to make the fakes and offer them as originals. Not sure of the origin of the straps myself ? Thanks again my friend.
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Old 01-21-2019, 02:11 AM   #40
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Danke Tim

Thanks Tim for your opinion.
I still had some questions.

1. were there special shoulder straps intended for an Heer tropical shirt?

2. you know determines the name of Andrew Mollo
His collection was sold
and there were a few things
you are after used materials "not real"
How can you describe the Mister Mollo?

3. If I cut off the strap of these tropical epaulettes, are the remains real for your opinion?

Thank you
Thanks for responding.

1. There is no such thing as Herr tropical shirt shoulderstraps. The solders in Afrika were issued two sets of straps, One for the jacket, one for the shirt.

2. Yes Mollo had the good, the bad, and the ugly as is so often found in old time collections. Also "heard" there were original pieces "restored" so to speak.
Are these straps from this collection ?

3. Interesting question. Do not think that would help.

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Old 01-21-2019, 02:31 AM   #41
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Thanks for responding. ...
Moin, Tim!
1. Alles klar, mal sehen,
ich halte es im Kopf
2.1 Über Mollo: stimmt genau.
2.2 Diese Schulterklappen aus einer anderen Sammlung.
3. Glaube ich nicht. Aber egal
Ich warte noch auf die Fortsetzung der Geschichte über meine Lederfabrikation in Hamburg von FESTUNGBREST

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Hello, Tim!
1. clearly, let's see about
I think it is in my head
2.1 about MOLLO: that's right.
2.2 these shoulder flaps from another collection.
3. I do not believe. But no matter
I still waiting for the continuation of the story about my leather factory in Hamburg from FESTUNGBREST
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:07 AM   #42
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1. There is no such thing as Herr tropical shirt shoulderstraps. The solders in Afrika were issued two sets of straps, One for the jacket, one for the shirt.

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Hello Tim,

where have you got this information from Tim that one of the sets of shoulder straps issued, was for the shirt ?

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Thanks for your comment
While i do not want to go into the ABC's of tropical straps. The difference in details between these straps and originals has already been stated in this thread... details.
Thanks Tim. I understood that except your words, more no red flags will exist.
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Hello Tim,

where have you got this information from Tim that one of the sets of shoulder straps issued, was for the shirt ?

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I believe he intended to say "and one for the overcoat".
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I believe he intended to say "and one for the overcoat".
As I understand it,

Soldiers going to Afrika in 1941 were issued with two tropical tunics and two pair of tropical shoulder straps. A pair for each tunic

The tropical great coat raises the question of another pair of woolen tropical straps for that garment. Thus a third pair but I am not sure on that ??? May be the great coats were issued with straps already attached ???

There was no issue of WH tropical straps for the WH tropical shirt. Any that you see in period pictures are tunic straps being worn on the shirt and involved exchanging between the two garments as needed,

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