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Old 08-18-2019, 08:25 PM   #1351
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Old 08-18-2019, 08:33 PM   #1352
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Thanks Paul.....As you have surmised and heard from veterans many items/ insignia were applied by hand and photos taken with items no longer authorized.



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Wonderful additions Bill.

Ref the sequence of posts #1339 - 1343 you can see the effect of the Jan 1944 order to drop the white collar tabs (in forward zones), but back home on leave the collar tabs are re-applied?

We all like to see factory machine sewn insignia in our collections, but I can imagine a lot was sewn on by hand and back off again perhaps a number of times. I've heard this first hand from veterans.

Meanwhile "Der Spiess"'s white collar tabs (#1343 - note the book tucked into his wrap tunic) are going nowhere!

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Old 09-18-2019, 01:05 PM   #1353
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:13 AM   #1354
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Some portraits from a new HG grouping including HG SB i just got .
The guy even received a Pz uniform set in his SB in 1945 but unfortunately no pictures of him in his Pz outfit !
He was in Berlin on the 01 of April 45 . He might have taken part in the Berlin
end fights ?
He survived them as many postwar pics are included in the lot .
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:38 AM   #1355
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Some portraits from a new HG grouping including HG SB i just got .
The guy even received a Pz uniform set in his SB in 1945 but unfortunately no pictures of him in his Pz outfit !
He was in Berlin on the 01 of April 45 . He might have taken part in the Berlin
end fights ?
He survived them as many postwar pics are included in the lot .
Very nice!

In the earlier lower pictures you can see he started prior to April 1943 (Flieger rank, piped collar patches).

Later he might have been stationed in Italy (tropical kit, now has the EK2).

Perhaps later (top right picture), or on leave (Gefreiter rank/ EK2 ribbon, unpiped collar patches?) he has a white piped collar (supposedly dropped in 1940!) showing again the disregard for regulations - and possibly a 'Walking Out' best fliegerbluse?

Although the white collar patches were ordered to be removed in January 1944 this does not seem to have applied to rear areas/ walking out dress etc - as seen in numerous wartime pictures, so the top right picture could even have been quite late in the war, difficult to say. Interesting that he is wearing a sidearm, in an occupied country perhaps, Holland etc where the HG had barracks until relatively late in the war?

Thanks for showing!

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