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Old 07-03-2016, 04:19 AM   #46
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Gentlemen.

With the War and Peace Revival about to start in the UK, now is a good time to remind you of the dangers of buying Kriegsmarine and Kaiserliche Marine Clocks on sale there and indeed at Ardingly and Newark.

The UK’s most active faker of these clocks will be there as usual displaying a number of clocks which will enable you to recognise him.

He sells clocks which range from fake dials on de-nazified clocks, to clocks which are complete fakes, including the cases. These are well executed fakes designed to deceive and defraud.

All numbers should match the serial number on the back of the case, including the movement. If someone tells you the movements get changed, he’s not telling you the truth

Know your eagles, here is one of his fakes and this thread contains excellent images of the correct ones so read it carefully.

Never pay cash. If he won’t take a card, give you his contact details, tells you he doesn’t have a land line telephone or a computer and speaks with a strong Scottish accent, walk away.

If you do decide to buy a clock at the show, buy it from a dealer you know or one who will take a card so you have some security. Even other dealers at the show may have been taken in by his clocks which also appear on eBay and other websites.

Tell your friends!
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:50 AM   #47
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Old 07-17-2017, 11:10 AM   #48
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Not very convincing thankfully
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Old 08-02-2017, 02:16 AM   #49
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Hi,
I have this KM clock from many years. It has been found in La Spesia (Italy). It has a lot of original black color, but the dial has only the eagle and no further number.
What do you think about? Why it has not the further number on the right of dial? Is it a fake?
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Old 08-02-2017, 03:00 AM   #50
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No fake. Original. Zinc dial with an eagle of the third generation. All hands original too (but painted). Many of them have no number/N on the right - probably used in KM administration headquarters on land. I will mention this in my book.

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Old 08-02-2017, 04:28 AM   #51
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Thoughts on this one appreciated
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Old 08-02-2017, 05:33 AM   #58
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Thank you very much afx20000!
Can I know the title of your book?

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PS: compliment nsef1940, wonderful clock!!
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Thanks, I was paranoid re the eagle and connections to Ulrich of England...
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Thanks, I was paranoid re the eagle and connections to Ulrich of England...
Worth being concerned about.........Ulrich has sold his share of fake clocks.

Your second hand is not consistent with known examples in my collection, but Florian may see it differently.

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