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Destroyer Badge - Original?
Old 01-19-2010, 02:19 PM   #1
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Default Destroyer Badge - Original?

I picked up this Destroyer Badge today along with a lot of other medals and tinnies from a man who collected in the 1950s. I'd like to know if this badge is original and if so, it's approximate value. Thanks in advance!

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Old 01-19-2010, 02:20 PM   #2
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Old 01-19-2010, 05:51 PM   #3
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Not an original Schwerin IMO!
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Old 01-19-2010, 05:53 PM   #4
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Thanks - I am still curious about this one. Here is the grouping of medals and tinnies I picked it up with.
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:40 AM   #5
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Just going through some old threads for maintenance and came across this one. That's a nice original zinc Schwerin Destroyer.

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Old 09-10-2017, 11:21 AM   #6
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That's a nice original zinc Schwerin Destroyer.

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I agree.

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Old 09-10-2017, 01:57 PM   #7
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Hi Barry,

Oh yes! Completely original, zinc Schwerin Destroyer Badge. Sorry! It seems we all missed this one when it was first posted. All the other items look good too.

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Old 09-12-2017, 06:02 PM   #8
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Were these zinc badges end of war pieces made after a lot of materials had run
out,or were they third class awards.I cant see why a company like Schwerin
would make and present to someone a lump of raw zinc and call it an award.
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:49 PM   #9
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Franco,

It was a first rate award that looked very nice at the time of the award ceremony or delivery of that award.

Zinc of course deteriorates over time as opposed to other metals, but when new, gilded, I do not think any recipient was ashamed to wear it.

Yes, these badges used a lesser metal as the war progressed as brass was needed elsewhere, but zinc awards were fine.

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Old 09-12-2017, 08:58 PM   #10
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I agree with John that it was probably a fine looking piece when awarded.

Also, the finish on many zinc awards did not hold up over time,unlike the finish applied to their tombak predecessors.

Here is a zinc Schwerin Destroyer that i used to own where the original gilding has remained almost intact but has faded to a dull olive colour.

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Old 09-13-2017, 06:06 AM   #11
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I also agree.
Destroyer badge posted by Barry looks like textbook Schwerin zincer faded in typical manner. On majority of Schwerin badges the gilt was 'absorbed' by the zinc. Only on these where different type of silver (or copper?) undercoat was used the gilt is preserved very well. Unfortunately this other type of underlayer was used by Schwerin very occasionaly on their KM badges (and never on s-boots).
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:44 AM   #12
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Hi,
That's a good explaination.Now I see why there is an absence of any finish on these.
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