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Old 03-27-2020, 04:39 PM   #1
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Default Early SS cap skull for review

Hello kameraden,
Please, help with the definition - is this skull original or not?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-27-2020, 05:54 PM   #2
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Hello kameraden.
Skull kaput.(not orginal)
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Old 03-28-2020, 03:35 PM   #3
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I have doubts on the originality of this skull. Vince
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Old 03-28-2020, 04:12 PM   #4
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I know almost nothing about these jawless skulls, but when looking at the outer edges and the shear marks, I can almost guarantee that this is a die struck piece. Also, it is obviously made of nickelsilver with brass prongs that are soldered in the same manner as many original TR nickelsilver items were.
So, I have to ask, have the fakers made die struck nickel skulls like this and is this a known fake pattern?

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Old 03-28-2020, 05:15 PM   #5
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I think some of these skull fakes are being diestruck. I dont like the teeth on this one and I'm just not sure about it. I haven't seen one with the teeth like this before.
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Old 03-28-2020, 06:01 PM   #6
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Im not wrote about this skull,,cast made'
What the problem to make diestruck?
To make those skulls you do not need very special expensive tools.
Look the level of Rolex copy watches (best copies are almost not to recognice by unexperienced watch enthusiast even inexperienced watchmaker could have problem to recognice as a fake.
This way to make copy of Danziger type skulls is very easy.
But Thanks to God here we have a lots of type of orginal ones as benchmark.
Our knowledge is based on orginals for sure.
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Old 03-28-2020, 07:29 PM   #7
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I think some of these skull fakes are being diestruck. I dont like the teeth on this one and I'm just not sure about it. I haven't seen one with the teeth like this before.
Vince
Vince same teeth has Big Bad Wolf from fair tail,,Red Hot Riding Hood"
But seriously you have good eye.
I compare this skull to couple orginals ones in my hand not witch skulls on internet.
This way a big difference in detail is visible.
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Old 03-28-2020, 08:05 PM   #8
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Back of same type of skull

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Old 03-28-2020, 08:26 PM   #9
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Second pics of this same skull.
Pls compare teeth and shape of eyeholes to skull posted on start.
Two main differences
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Old 03-28-2020, 09:03 PM   #10
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Perfectly original in my opinion. As Chris rightly states the construction and materials are seen on early SS insignia and I will also add early nickle silver buckles also have this yellowish nickle tone.
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Old 03-28-2020, 09:55 PM   #11
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The skull Peter posted is a known fake if I remember from another thread. It does have similiar teeth and prongs if not the same. IMO
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Old 03-29-2020, 04:39 AM   #12
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Perfectly original in my opinion. As Chris rightly states the construction and materials are seen on early SS insignia and I will also add early nickle silver buckles also have this yellowish nickle tone.
Witch those teeth perfectly orginal?
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Old 03-29-2020, 05:57 AM   #13
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Posted many times.
Pls compare the teeth (front and back) stamping.
Pls compare the sharp edges around nasal hole (looking from back)
Pls compare the suturae cranii .
And many many other details.
IMO soon witch those level of ,,knowledge" almost all skulls whitch have ,, generally" ,,right construction" and ,,yellow color" will be orginal.
Those skulls depreciate value and beauty of orginal ones.

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Old 03-29-2020, 11:42 AM   #14
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The skull Peter posted is a known fake if I remember from another thread. It does have similiar teeth and prongs if not the same. IMO
Vince agree.
This skull is displayed in International Bureau of Weights and Measuring in Sevres
near Paris as fake skulls measure standard.
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I know almost nothing about these jawless skulls, but when looking at the outer edges and the shear marks, I can almost guarantee that this is a die struck piece. Also, it is obviously made of nickelsilver with brass prongs that are soldered in the same manner as many original TR nickelsilver items were.
So, I have to ask, have the fakers made die struck nickel skulls like this and is this a known fake pattern?

Thanks!

Chris
After analyzing on high res big monitor pics of skull posted on start of this thread I can almost guarante: this one is cast made.
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