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Assmann EK1 - triplets
Old 07-11-2019, 02:11 PM   #1
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Old 07-11-2019, 02:14 PM   #3
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Gents,

These 3 Assmann EK1 have just arrived.

What do you think?

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Old 07-12-2019, 09:24 AM   #4
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Very nice Andrew!!
I know the Assmann's are later pieces, and so don't have the super quality of a 50's Deumer or S&L, but I think they have a lot of character and are great pieces in their own right, and quite scarce too!!
So far, I haven't seen any major variations in the Assmann EK1
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Old 07-13-2019, 02:51 AM   #5
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I especially like the first one. Are the flanges polished or sand blasted like the later S&Ls?
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Old 07-13-2019, 03:05 AM   #6
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Non of them are polished, they have that rather ivory-ish colour and the cores are not that gritty that I've seen on other example. Non of them are magnetic of course.
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Old 07-15-2019, 02:24 PM   #7
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Congrats !!! A rare find I'm still looking for one
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Congrats !!! A rare find I'm still looking for one
Same here, wouldn't mind adding one to my collection.
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You know guys, anything listed here are ready to go, I am not a collector but keen to show all new arrivals here to avoid misleading my buyers....
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How I can differentiate such a piece from a very late S&L piece except the A for Assmann?

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How I can differentiate such a piece from a very late S&L piece except the A for Assmann?

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All the EK1's by Assmann that we have seen so far have been marked, I would be surprised if many, or any at all weren't?
If you have one in hand to examine, they are very different from the similar period/ later S&L...the finish on the frame and core are unlike anything that S&L used!! Construction techniques, such as soldering and hand finishing are also different!!
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All the EK1's by Assmann that we have seen so far have been marked, I would be surprised if many, or any at all weren't?
If you have one in hand to examine, they are very different from the similar period/ later S&L...the finish on the frame and core are unlike anything that S&L used!! Construction techniques, such as soldering and hand finishing are also different!!
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Where are the differences in the stamping, that's the thing that interest me.

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Where are the differences in the stamping, that's the thing that interest me.

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By "stamping" I guess you mean the die it was made from?
S&L used several different EK cores throughout the many years of production, while all seem to come from the same, original master or mother die, there are small differences between cores from differing periods.
It appears that S&L provided Assmann with one of their working dies to use on their version of the EK1, it looks different from the die that S&L were using themselves at the same time!!
It has signs of wear, and was probably one of S&L's dies that they had previously used themselves.
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By "stamping" I guess you mean the die it was made from?
S&L used several different EK cores throughout the many years of production, while all seem to come from the same, original master or mother die, there are small differences between cores from differing periods.
It appears that S&L provided Assmann with one of their working dies to use on their version of the EK1, it looks different from the die that S&L were using themselves at the same time!!
It has signs of wear, and was probably one of S&L's dies that they had previously used themselves.
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And that's the problem - there are no differences in the die.

Only the "A" stamp is the clear visible difference.

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And that's the problem - there are no differences in the die.

Only the "A" stamp is the clear visible difference.

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If you compare an Assmann made EK1 with an S&L made EK1 from the same period, everything is slightly different, core, frame, paint, silver finish etc.
The differences are small, and hard to spot without very close examination , but they are there!
But, if Assmann marked all their EK1's, as so far they all seem to be, such close study might not be needed!!
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