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Old 11-20-2019, 05:14 PM   #1
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Hi guys,
Bought this nice cased Pilotís badge today and I was wondering if any of you could ID the maker. Please let me know what you think!
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Old 11-20-2019, 05:41 PM   #2
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Yep! Repaired Deumer Pilot badge 1st pattern with matching Deumer case. I wonder what happened to this beautiful piece to explain the crude rivet repairs on the back since the hardware and the front (including the finish) is so nice

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Old 11-20-2019, 06:05 PM   #3
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Thanks JC!
I looked at the one in the originals gallery but I wasnít sure about the eagleís head.
Anyway... it does look good right? I had some doubts before buying it because of the crude repairs but since the obverse looks so fine and it has the matching case, I couldnít resist!
Payed Ä800 for it so that seems a fair price for this set in this condition right?
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:11 PM   #4
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As JC says, a very nice original early Deumer in great condition with the exception of the harsh repair to the rivets. Nice early bird that certainly saw some action!

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Old 11-20-2019, 08:07 PM   #5
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Thanks JC!
I looked at the one in the originals gallery but I wasnít sure about the eagleís head.
Anyway... it does look good right? I had some doubts before buying it because of the crude repairs but since the obverse looks so fine and it has the matching case, I couldnít resist!
Payed Ä800 for it so that seems a fair price for this set in this condition right?
No problem BKEHV

I must say I'm biaised in the "looks good right?" department because I've had the same badge as yours for almost 40 years now.

Not very "in tune" with prices/values either but the market seems to be funny these days... However this is not a common badge and even if the repairs should impact the value, the value of cases has increased significantly so IMO you did OK on the price particularly if you're like me & buy stuff to keep it; not as an investor looking for a good ROI

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Old 11-21-2019, 12:32 AM   #6
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Great thin Deumer with matching case! Sad that the rivets are destroyed
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Old 11-21-2019, 07:47 AM   #7
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Nice original with good deumer case. Too bad about the rivets. On hard badge to find.

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Old 11-21-2019, 08:56 AM   #8
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It almost looks like the rivers are gone and piece is soldered on with solder filling the river holes. Can you confirm?
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Old 11-21-2019, 11:58 AM   #9
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Is that from the HH auction?
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:48 PM   #10
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It almost looks like the rivers are gone and piece is soldered on with solder filling the river holes. Can you confirm?
If you look closely you can see that the left rivet is gone and the right one is still there. They fortified the right side with some solder as well.
For collectors not that attractive but it's an efficient repair.
The obverse of this badge is very beautiful, so is the case.
Despite the repair, a very rare and beautiful set.
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Old 11-21-2019, 04:00 PM   #11
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In a way, its surprising we dont see more of these early Deumers with similar repairs because the rivet heads are very tiny on these compared to those used on second pattern Deumers or even on contemporary Juncker pilots (J1).

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Old 11-22-2019, 01:49 PM   #12
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Well read, what he writes Jean Claude
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Old 11-24-2019, 04:13 AM   #13
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Thanks for all your reactions guys!

@Tony Bologna; I will take a look at them when I receive the package. I'm waiting for them to ship a.t.m.

@Jim10011; Yes it is. I was watching the auction because I was wondering what the Eichenlaub mit Schwertern und Brillanten would sell for (Ä135.000). While I was watching the livestream I was scrolling through the list of items and saw this beauty being offered.
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