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Old 02-23-2020, 05:20 PM   #31
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I am a great believer in Jo Rivet and his findings under the microscope .Have you read his book on party badges amazing.
What he has found and put to paper is outstanding .
however he has upset a lot of collectors .
No one likes to be told they have fakes. The micro says wrong enamel or wrong metal .This is scientific and not bias workings.You can take the findings and move forward in the hobby or you can believe old books that are clearly out dated and open to old fakes .
Just my 2 eggs worth.
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Old 02-23-2020, 05:41 PM   #32
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I am a great believer in Jo Rivet and his findings under the microscope .Have you read his book on party badges amazing.
What he has found and put to paper is outstanding .
however he has upset a lot of collectors .
No one likes to be told they have fakes. The micro says wrong enamel or wrong metal .This is scientific and not bias workings.You can take the findings and move forward in the hobby or you can believe old books that are clearly out dated and open to old fakes .
Just my 2 eggs worth.
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:32 PM   #33
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Agree 100%
I will give Jo credit for his Pary Badge Book, which I own and have read cover to cover, but he has taken his prestige on this book and applied it to virtually every non Party enamel badge, and claimed all were bad. An endless list.

Isn't it strange, that major dealers such as Weitze, pay no attention to his findings on non-NSDAP enamel Party badges, and still stay in business.

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Old 02-23-2020, 09:43 PM   #34
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"Isn't it strange, that major dealers such as Weitze, pay no attention to his findings on non-NSDAP enamel Party badges, and still stay in business."

No, why?

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Old 02-25-2020, 02:34 AM   #35
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Why ???
well I think to be honest the answer is there and its staring us in the face .

Ok fact .There were types of metal ,pure, mixed .Also types of enamel as for casting marks..
Some of these were only in use before and TR period.
Now to the naked eye this cannot be spotted but under the micro you can .
how can anyone say no to scientific fact ????? it is beyond me .Its like saying the dinosaurs were a hoax.
Jo has not applied it to everything full stop but areas where the findings come out .
Now why do the big dealers keep going ..well they have been openly peddling fakes for bloody decades .They will all group together to cry vets bring back and offer a nice laminated CO for you .The sheep are happy Just look at some of the crap Whitman has for sale .Olympic HJ knives I meen come on.
He even endorsed all that Nazi party Christmas decorations that poured out of Poland a few years ago and the army toilet paper.
The sheep will buy it as its got their stamp on it .
Jo is not trying to do this to sell items rather than to expose all the copies and to better our hobby.the old guard hate him and have hounded him and even pushed him off here.Some are for sure responsible for the copies themselves.
Science or some old bloke saying vets bring back ??? well ime not daft.
regards to all .Just my 6 eggs worth
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Old 02-25-2020, 08:01 AM   #36
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This is an NSB stickpin.
That is a fake of a Swedish party badge for Ekström's "Nationalsocialistiska Blocket".
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Old 02-25-2020, 02:24 PM   #37
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The threadstarter might stand a chance. Even Rivett admits to the possibility of a second version. Looks to have a nice messing planchet. The Redo badges are all fake though.
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Old 03-01-2020, 03:06 AM   #38
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Although the Husken book is a good reference, there are countless repros in that book for sure.

As far as a dealer like Weitze and others, to them it doesn’t necessarily matter as long as there are still buyers buying and he’s making a profit. JMO.
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Old 03-13-2020, 01:47 AM   #39
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Here is three I believe stand a chance.

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Old 03-13-2020, 09:09 AM   #40
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Old 03-13-2020, 11:30 AM   #41
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Like, too, a copy.
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