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1957 Medals, Orders and Decorations Third Reich Awards redesigned in 1957 without National Socialist Emblems, including Post-war and Veteran-related items.

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Old 01-22-2013, 12:56 PM   #61
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Here are some images I cropped from Roland Kaltenegger's Das Buch der Gebirgsjäger (1980).


Generalmajor Georg Gartmayr








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Generalmajor Karl Wilhelm Thilo





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Left to right.................
Unamed Italian Alpini Officer
Brigadeegeneral in Bundesgrenzschutz Ettlinger
Generalmajor Michael Griepl
Staadtsminister Max Streibel
Generalmajor Ernst Metz
Generalleutnant Dr. Ing. Helmut Schonefeld


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Ettlinger & Schoenfeld:


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Generalmajor Karl-Heinz Wirsing


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Old 01-22-2013, 01:33 PM   #68
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Hi Guy!!!
thanks for adding these great pics, if you find the missing names, please post them too, and we can add them!!!!!
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A photo of RKT Major Hans Guhr (second from the left), among other officers. This photo was send by a great friend, Michael Guhr. On the right, Hans 1957 ribbon bar (including the RK).
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Hi Guy!!!
thanks for adding these great pics, if you find the missing names, please post them too, and we can add them!!!!!
Cheers!!!
-Nigel
Hi Nigel, I have the book to hand now.

#61. Generalmajor Georg Gartmayr (1959-1962)
#62. Generalmajor Ernst Metz (1972)
#63. Generalmajor Karl Wilhelm Thilo (ca. 1965)
#64. Group photo. Right to Left:
a. Generalleutnant Dr. Ing. Helmut Schönefeld , Commanding General of II Korps
b. Generalmajor Ernst Metz, outgoing Commander, 1st Geb. Div.
c. Staadtsminister Max Streibl
d. Generalmajor Michael Griepl, current Commander, 1st Geb. Div
e. Brigadegeneral in Bundesgrenzschutz Ettlinger (couldn't even get a Google hit for first name).
f. Unnamed Italian Alpini officer
#65. Brigadegeneral Ettlinger and Generalleutnant Dr. Ing. Helmut Schönefeld
#66. Generalmajor Karl-Heinz Wirsing with Oberstleutnant Herbert Hintze (former commander of Gebirgs Pionier Batallion 8. from 1961-1962)
#67. Unnamed general; caption says "...Der General ist es auch, denn sportliche Fitness kommt dem Gebirgsdienst zugute." in the section titled, "Die ,,Sportdivision."" Though, he looks similar to Generalmajor Joachim Horbach.

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Hello Guy's Just an interesting fact about Generalmajor Karl Herzog.....I made two visits to his home (Munich). He showed me his RK and it was a S&L first pattern core with a finished ring eye...a real beauty ! Then he showed me his other RK and it was a S&L first pattern core with un-finished ring eye...also a beauty. I asked him why he had two of them, and he said because he never recieved his RK at the time of award in April 45. He joined the Bundeswehr in 1957 (after 10 years in a Soviet Gulag - 1945 - 1955) and he retired in 1966. I will be posting a studio photo of him in uniform wearing his Rk soon. Tom
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Thanks Guy!!!
and Thanks Tom for the info on Karl Herzog, interesting to hear about him having two 1st pattern RK's and one having the finished eye, the other not, i believe that most collectors think that because of the extra work involved, the finished eye was earlier..............i dont!!!!!!!!!
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Nigel, I forgot to say that both were marked 800. Back then I had no idea of why they were different, and I only assumed that S&L was the maker. I know one of them he purchased and the other was "Awarded " to him by the OdR. The OdR did this with other Vets who had not recieved their crosses by wars end. Henri Fenet was another, I remember him telling me about it. Tom
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Once again, thank you for the information Tom!!!
Heres an unknown vet, whose medals were sold a year or two ago, notice his........ Ost...flipped!!!
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Gerhard Matzky.................
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