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Old 06-07-2019, 04:22 AM   #91
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Milch sig more rare than Göring
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and what is rarer, signed with a red, blue or grey pencil. for both Göring and Milch. Was the color choice random or does this have to do with a specific timeframe?

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Looking for the documents belonging to "Heinrich Szech" 3./KG53 and "Gerhard Stubbe" 6./KG53

Looking for the Ehrenpokal / Honor Goblet of "Willi Haug" 1./KG53 (26-10-1940)

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Old 06-07-2019, 04:26 AM   #92
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Dear users, have a look at the following thread:

U boat Commander with the honor goblet

an absolute highlight of my modest Collection.


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Brans' one.Very nice 40 goblet.
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Old 06-07-2019, 06:52 AM   #93
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Milch sig more rare than Göring
This is a fact that I have not noticed until now. Did Milich at Ehrenpokal citation also use a facsimile?.
Maybe we can see his signature less often because only the handwritten ones are known?
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Old 06-07-2019, 09:22 AM   #94
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Brans cup interesting history there! Milch hand signed. And it was really nice to see those 75 year D Day ceremonies yesterday. My wife's father still alive. He lied about his age and got into the war at age 16. Silver Star, Bronze Star.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:53 PM   #95
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12.08.40 Oberst und Geschwader Kommandore Alois Stoeckl, KG55 “Greif” (Source: Ehrenpokal Urkunde)

...in Anerkennung seiner hervorragenden Tapferkeit und der vorbildlichen Führung seines Kampfgeschwaders. (Signed by Göring)
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Old 06-07-2019, 05:10 PM   #96
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79 pilots till now:

01.06.1940 Heinrich Klein
05.07.1940 Oberleutnant Gerhart Schirmer
08.07.1940 Major Ludwig Schulz
08.07.1940 Major Walter Grabmann
12.08.1940 Major Franz Behrendt
12.08.1940 Oberst und Geschwader Kommandore Alois Stoeckl, KG55 “Greif”
21.08.1940 Hauptmann Johannes Schalk III./Zerstörergeschwader 26
26.08.1940 Oberleutnant Richard Kern 2.(F.)/Aufklärungsgruppe 123
27.08.1940 Oberleutnant Gerhard Schöpfel III./Jagdgeschwader 26
28.08.1940 Hauptmann Horst Liensberger V.(Zerstörer)/Lehrgeschwader 1
05.09.1940 Major Erich Mix III./Jagdgeschwader 2
05.09.1940 Leutnant Heinz Ebeling 8./Jagdgeschwader 26
08.09.1940 Oberleutnant Gustav Sprick 8./Jagdgeschwader 26
13.09.1940 Oberleutnant Werner Streib Zerstörergeschwader 1
26.09.1940 Hauptmann Theodor Rossiwall 6./Zerstörergeschwader 26
28.09.1940 Oberleutnant Günther Scholz III./Jagdgeschwader 54
28.09.1940 Oberleutnant Hans-Ekkehard Bob 9./Jagdgeschwader 54
28.09.1940 Oberleutnant Hans Philipp 4./Jagdgeschwader 54
28.09.1940 Oberleutnant Karlheinz Metz 8./Jagdgeschwader 2
28.09.1940 Feldwebel Max Stotz 4./Jagdgeschwader 54
28.09.1940 Oberleutnant Hajo Herrmann 7./Kampfgeschwader 4
28.09.1940 Hauptmann Dietrich Hrabak II./Jagdgeschwader 54
28.09.1940 Hauptmann Robert Kowalewski Führungskette X Fliegerkorps
28.09.1940 Hauptmann Wilhelm Makroki I./Zerstörergeschwader 26
28.09.1940 Hauptmann Ralph von Rettberg II./Zerstörergeschwader 26
28.09.1940 Oberleutnant Herbert Wittmann
28.09.1940 Feldwebel Gerhard Schilling
28.09.1940 Leutnant Ernst Guess
04.10.1940 Oberleutnant zur See Günther Grunwald
05.10.1940 Oberleutnant Helmut Bennemann 2./Jagdgeschwader 52
05.10.1940 Oberleutnant Karl-Heinz Leesmann 2./Jagdgeschwader 52
06.10.1940 Hauptmann Reinhold Gottschalk Kampfgeschwader 26
06.10.1940 Hauptmann Joachim Helbig Lehrgeschwader 1
06.10.1940 Leutnant Otto Heinrich Stab II./ Lehrgeschwader 1
06.10.1940 Oberfeldwebel Richard Hahne 6./ Lehrgeschwader 1
06.10.1940 Oberfeldwebel Karl Mauch 6./ Lehrgeschwader 1
06.10.1940 Feldwebel Herbert Isachsen 8./ Lehrgeschwader 1
06.10.1940 Oberfeldwebel Heinrich Kämper
06.10.1940 Oberfeldwebel Ewald Sachs
06.10.1940 Oberfeldwebel Albert Faller
10.10.1940 Leutnant Fritz Hasselbeck II./Kampfgeschwader 30
11.10.1940 Hauptmann Albrecht Ochs
20.10.1940 Leutnant Erich Rudorffer 2./Jagdgeschwader 2
20.10.1940 Hauptmann Walter Storp II./Kampfgeschwader 76
20.10.1940 Oberleutnant Ludwig Franzisket 7./Jagdgeschwader 27
20.10.1940 Oberfeldwebel Friedrich Fern
23.10.1940 Major Oskar Bauer
24.10.1940 Hauptmann Hans-Henning Freiherr von Beust III./ Kampfgeschwader 27
26.10.1940 Hauptmann Walter Adolph II./Jagdgeschwader 26
26.10.1940 Oberleutnant Wolfgang Redlich 1./Jagdgeschwader 27
26.10.1940 Oberfeldwebel Wilhelm Haug I/KG53
26.10.1940 Beobachter Alfred Sticht I./KG53
04.11.1940 Feldwebel Hellmuth Krüger
04.11.1940 Unteroffizier Richard Döring
04.11.1940 Feldwebel Johannes Georgi
07.11.1940 Obfw. Wilhelm Müller I./JG 26
09.11.1940 Major Otto Weiss II.(Schlacht)/Lehrgeschwader 2
14.11.1940 Oberleutnant Franz Götz Jagdgeschwader 53
30.11.1940 Unteroffizier Josef Kehren, Bordfunker von "Bombo" Schenk
30.11.1940 Oberleutnant Alfred Druschel II.(Schlacht)/Lehrgeschwader 2
30.11.1940 Unteroffizier Horst Schrammke
30.11.1940 Hauptmann Otto Hintze 3./Erprobungsgruppe 210
30.11.1940 Hauptmann Wilhelm Nöller II./Sturzkampfgeschwader 1
30.11.1940 Leutnant Heinz Frank II.(Schlacht)/Lehrgeschwader 2
30.11.1940 Oberleutnant Josef Harmeling II.(Schlacht)/Lehrgeschwader 2
30.11.1940 Leutnant Fritz Erhard Herrmann Stab/Erprobungsgruppe 210
30.11.1940 Wolfgang Schenk Erprobungsgruppe 210
04.12.1940 Oberleutnant Erich Woitke 6./Jagdgeschwader 3
14.12.1940 Oberleutnant Gustav-Siegfried Rödel 4./Jagdgeschwader 27
14.12.1940 Oberleutnant Eberhard Hennings I./Kampfgeschwader 4
16.12.1940 Oberleutnant Albert Biemer „53“ Kampfgeschwader 77
19.12.1940 Oberleutnant Hans-Joachim Brans Küsten-Flieger-Gruppe 906
19.12.1940 Oberleutnant Franz Eckerle
19.12.1940 Oberleutnant Walter Schneider
19.12.1940 Olt Günter Skambraks 8./Sturzkampfstaffel 1
22.12.1940 Oberleutnant Wolfgang Schenck
24.12.1940 Oberleutnant Joachim Genzow
30.12.1940 Hauptmann Johannes Seifert
(?).12. 1940 Franz “Gockl” Hahn - 2./JG 77
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Old 06-07-2019, 06:29 PM   #97
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I should have bid on the Schulz's goblet in HH auction few years ago.
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Old 06-08-2019, 11:15 AM   #98
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Great Trend.
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Old 06-09-2019, 11:10 AM   #99
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Brian, if you want to worship at the D-Day altar, there is a separate thread for that. I thought this one was about the Ehrenpokal.
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Old 06-09-2019, 11:11 AM   #100
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Brian, if you want to worship at the D-Day altar, there is a separate thread for that. I thought this one was about the Ehrenpokal.
Be nice or troll another thread.

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Old 06-09-2019, 10:06 PM   #101
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That's pretty rich coming from you.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:36 AM   #102
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Hello Chen,
these are the most extensive discounts on Nachtjäger victory cups known to me as existing realities:
Ludwig Becker, oak leaf holder with 44 cups
Heinz Strüning, oak leaf holder with 35 Cups
Reinhard Kollak, knight cross holder with 27 Cups

These estates are also complete, no possible cup is missing.

Victory Cups were not awarded during the entire wartime.
The latest known Cups are dated from 25.07.1943 and given to Uffz. Walter Rohlfing NJG 3
Even successful night fighters, who only reached their high numbers of launches from the September 1943 to the end of war, did not get any cups.
During a telephone conversation with Heinz Rökker, Oak Leave holder with 64 aerial victories, I found out that he only got 3 cups.

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Some additional information received about these "Victory Cups"
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:38 AM   #103
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Old 06-20-2019, 09:56 AM   #104
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Victory Cups were not awarded during the entire wartime.
The latest known Cups are dated from 25.07.1943 and given to Uffz. Walter Rohlfing NJG 3

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Rohlfing. The night Hamburg was bombed. The nights that changed everything.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:47 AM   #105
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The proliferation of these 'victory cups' in recent years leaves me sceptical, especially ones marked 'Dem Sieger im Luftkampf' or 'Denn wir fliegen gegen England'. Given the milieu of the times, such engravings would not have been applied to such cups IMHO.
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