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Armeesattel 25 Stirrups?
Old 07-06-2011, 08:27 PM   #1
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I have recently acquired a unissued condition Armeesattel 25 and am curious what type of stirrups would have been issued with it, as it is missing them. Also, where would I look for a pair, as I would love to find a pair to go with it. I have seen photos of 2 types of stirrups on M25's, one looks like the KuK army stirrups from the earlier austria\hungarian saddles, and the other looks like a more standard european style stirrup iron. Thanks for any assistance with this!

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Old 07-07-2011, 04:05 AM   #2
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The KuK stirrups were only used on a very limited scale,
this is the standard stirrup for the Armeesattel 25;



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Old 07-07-2011, 01:30 PM   #3
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Were they originally unfinished, blued, or chromed?

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Old 07-07-2011, 03:18 PM   #4
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They came unfinished and during the war sometimes painted black against rust.

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Old 07-08-2011, 08:39 AM   #5
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Well, I have been researching this one, and here is what I found. Here are some photos I pulled from the web of the KuK pattern stirrups, and at some point there must have been some aluminum or some other alloy used to make them (possibly post war?) Some of these photos were provided by Nicole on the panzer forum. Does anyone have any ideas on the history of the alloy ones? I have handled a pair of them, and they are certainly lighter than iron or steel.

First a few original photos of the KuK pattern in use, the first and second one is Third Reich, the last 2 in this section are KuK:








Here is a photo of a steel or iron pair:


Here are a couple photos of the alloy pair:
This photo is from a museum in Vienna




Here are the standard pattern stirrups in use:






And here is a rider with a pair of hussar like sturrups (does anyone know this pattern?):
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Old 07-09-2011, 03:28 AM   #6
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The stirrups on the photos with the troopers standing up in the saddle are the model original for the Armeesattel 89, these have on one side two forged openings to fasten the lance cup. These models were used up after world war one.

The Hussar type of stirrups on the last photo are possible Belgian model 1868 or French ones, both look similar. Lots of captured horse equipment was used, as long as it was compatible with the Armeesattel 25, also feed bags, horse blankets, brushes etc... especially in the second line, training and non cavalry units.

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Two photos of Hungarian horses during world war two.





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Old 07-09-2011, 12:42 PM   #8
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Here are 2 pretty good photos I found of those stirrups with the holes in the side for the lance cup:





And here is another interesting use for them, it looks like the drummer has his reigns tied to them:

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Old thread, I know

Here is the drawing from a k.u.k. (imperial Austrian) Kavallerie manual showing the stirrup used on the model 99 cavalry saddle.
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Hi dcwilliams29id
Your post about the stirup irons got my attention as i collect cavalry items.
What you need are the "Reichsheer "issue stirrups for the classic M25 Armeesattel saddle if you want the correct setup.I have an extra set if you are interested they have the waffen amp stamp along with the"Reichsheer" stamp.
You don't get more correct than that.
Also, both are dated.
I also have a pair for the m99 saddle which is shown in the manual that is posted above

Regards Deen.

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