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Old 02-23-2020, 11:30 AM   #16
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Not a Juncker eagle for sure.
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Old 02-23-2020, 11:31 AM   #17
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Totally agreed Brian, will be great to see more on this piece.

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Old 02-23-2020, 11:35 AM   #18
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Best GUESS at this moment, that is a Petz & Lorenz eagle. But we'll see.
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Old 02-23-2020, 02:09 PM   #19
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Good eye Brian .... one eagle is different .

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Old 02-23-2020, 05:01 PM   #20
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Here I place additional photos of the eagle in question. I hope, they will be helpful.

Yesterday I mentioned that this eagle could not be made of silver. I thought that the dark spots on the reverse were exposed tombac. Today I found out , it was oxidation. I was capable to partly clean it with a q-tip. I think, it could be completely removed with a chemical solvent.

I looked on the obverse with 15x loop and did not find any signs of bubble casting.

For the record, this cross is in my hands since late 1990's.

We have here three scenarios:
1. Cross itself is fake as well as all the eagles.

2. Cross is original with one replaced original eagle of other manufacturer, ie. "Frankenstein".
Hypothesis: Original recipient or post-war dealer could posses two damaged crosses (in case of recipient: the officially awarded Juncker and one privately bought ) and decided to make of them one good piece. They both used help of professional jeweler. But, who decided to do it and when it was done, we will never know and it is not of big importance.

3 Cross is original with one replaced post-war reproduction eagle, ie. post-war restoration.

I know, this cross is not easy to evaluate, particularly from the photos.

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Old 02-23-2020, 06:47 PM   #21
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Seba spottednot me. Good pics. If at computer maybe I cud ID eagle. Otherwise cross is fine. Nice odd Juncker for a change. And if I guessed wud say wartime too. But why eagle fly away????
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Old 02-24-2020, 02:00 PM   #22
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I am glad, my protos were helpful. I would like the thank all the participants in this thread for their effort in evaluating this "special" Spain Cross !!!
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