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Third Reich era and beyond produced EKs.
Old 02-17-2020, 01:43 PM   #1
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Default Third Reich era and beyond produced EKs.

Production of Imperial awards didn't stop with the Kaiser bolting out the door. 2d piece/wearers copies were needed thru WW2 and beyond. Quality went down hill as time went on. Just how collectible are these "later" pieces.

Here are three that I have picked up over the years as examples when I was actively collecting EKs.
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Going thru some more crosses and I found this one. Apparently the baby brother of the #1 EK1 above. I assume a TR era cross by the quality.
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Production of Imperial awards didn't stop with the Kaiser bolting out the door. 2d piece/wearers copies were needed thru WW2 and beyond. Quality went down hill as time went on. Just how collectible are these "later" pieces.

Here are three that I have picked up over the years as examples when I was actively collecting EKs.
Yes never stopped since 1914 until 1945.
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Yes never stopped since 1914 until 1945.
More accurately, they were available for purchase by living veterans well into the 1960s-70s. The last 1st class Don shows in post #1 has post-1945 hardware and falls into the "57er" category. Although it's not technically a "57er" as that term only applies really to the re-issued Third Reich awards.
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More accurately, they were available for purchase by living veterans well into the 1960s-70s. The last 1st class Don shows in post #1 has post-1945 hardware and falls into the "57er" category. Although it's not technically a "57er" as that term only applies really to the re-issued Third Reich awards.
Yes but the official production end in the 1945.

Restart during '57 with Bundeswehr where the official disposition permit with it allows those who deem it right to go and check old war actions to see if they can be awarded and apply.
Different story to make a production for which everyone can buy it, even I was born in 1967.
There are clear distinctions to be made, otherwise even those produced 10 years ago are to be collected and if we put it on this point the production is never finished !!
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Yes but the official production end in the 1945.

Restart during '57 with Bundeswehr where the official disposition permit with it allows those who deem it right to go and check old war actions to see if they can be awarded and apply.
Different story to make a production for which everyone can buy it, even I was born in 1967.
There are clear distinctions to be made, otherwise even those produced 10 years ago are to be collected and if we put it on this point the production is never finished !!
I get your point. But, it's not about those produced 10 years ago as they would obviously be repros. But, there were lots of WWI vets still alive in the 1960s and 70s who were customers for private purchase awards. The firm of Friedrich Sedlaczek, for example published a well known catalogue in the early 60s in which most of the common WWI awards were for sale. They weren't of course official. But, they were legitimate wearing copies, just the same.
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Just how collectible are these "later" pieces.
I think they are collectible and an important part of the Iron Cross family, however, for me personally they are not something I would intentionally pursue.

I picked up this unmarked B.H. Mayer in a trade. It's the same cross as the one in your second picture. I guess it doesn't look too bad in hand after a few beers if I squint my eyes a little and kind of look away and focus on something else. Really this one isn't that bad IMO!
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