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Old 08-13-2019, 03:57 PM   #1
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Hello.

Here is a recent estate find from Norway.
A very nice M42 dd NSKK EF64 #2832/2632.
Linerband is from 1943.
Unmarked chinstrap, but full length.
Very faint domestamp.
National shield is very worn, but as seen on most NSKK helmets it has had the red cut out.

Unlike all other NSKK I have seen, this is not a former Luftwaffe helmet. It clearly shows a shield under the NSKK-decal.
A shield with a lot of white peeping through the cracks. What kind of decal do you think it is?












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Old 08-13-2019, 09:29 PM   #2
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“What kind of decal do you think it is?“

Only one way to find out.
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Old 08-14-2019, 01:33 AM   #3
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NSKK helmets often had a Bicolor decal on right side (black and white without the red)...that's the only explanation for a tricolor on an M42 (except for a "fake-decal" explanation...).
On the left side could be whatever decal...presumably and 99,9% is an Heer one with the white backing peaking through.
It's the best I can argue with photos.
I would like very much to have this helmet for study in hand....

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...I guessed the whitish backing of an Heer decal only because the white spots are not so silver-ish as if it was an SS decal.
An USB analysis of the white spots could be helpful.....
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Old 08-14-2019, 12:07 PM   #5
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...I guessed the whitish backing of an Heer decal only because the white spots are not so silver-ish as if it was an SS decal.
An USB analysis of the white spots could be helpful.....


Agreed. I need to invest in an usb microscope.
I think there is just too much consistent white in all the cracks. Even in a worn heer decal it’s unlikely to be this consistent.
My guess is that it’s a former SS volunteer helmet, which often had the decal on the left side.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:08 PM   #6
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Agreed. I need to invest in an usb microscope.
I think there is just too much consistent white in all the cracks. Even in a worn heer decal it’s unlikely to be this consistent.
My guess is that it’s a former SS volunteer helmet, which often had the decal on the left side.

Although rare and unusual, I'm seeing an M42 DD Army converted to NSKK....Bodes
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:13 PM   #7
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Although rare and unusual, I'm seeing an M42 DD Army converted to NSKK....Bodes
That's what I see also
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Old 08-15-2019, 02:21 AM   #8
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Although rare and unusual, I'm seeing an M42 DD Army converted to NSKK....Bodes
It could be a former army helmet, I'm not ruling that out. Just saying that there sure is a lot of white spots in the cracks.

However, what is definitely for sure is that it's not a former DD Army. It can be a little hard to see in the picture, but the national shield is OVER the repaint. The national shield was added at the same time as the NSKK decal.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:21 AM   #9
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Yes, for sure not a DD M42 as the tri-color is on top.

I have an M42 which seems to have a similar shade of overpaint. Have not found out what decal mine had on it either yet. Liner is a 68/60 steel with pigskin leather, darkened because the previous owner had treated it with some kind of oil. Chinstrap is an early aluminum G.Schiele Loburg 1939. The overpaint is also visible on the strap and liner. Here are some pics:
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Old 08-19-2019, 02:14 PM   #11
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Interesting!
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Old 08-19-2019, 07:17 PM   #12
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The paint on the second one looks like for postwar Norwegian use....The liner as well has that reddish brown color found on Norwegian helmets....Bodes
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The paint on the second one looks like for postwar Norwegian use....The liner as well has that reddish brown color found on Norwegian helmets....Bodes
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=598924
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The paint on the second one looks like for postwar Norwegian use....The liner as well has that reddish brown color found on Norwegian helmets....Bodes
The liner is too dark to be Norwegian dye imo. But you might be right on the paint.
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The liner is too dark to be Norwegian dye imo. But you might be right on the paint.
Don't forget these were original WW2 German m-31 liners used in some of these Norwegian reissued helmets.....They would have had a varying degree of use and soiling, so the dye too will tend to vary in shade....Bodes
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