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Old 03-07-2018, 04:28 PM   #16
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Italian m16 helmet, same unit, in a collection at Siracusa, Sicily.
Superb Helmet

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Old 03-08-2018, 03:45 PM   #17
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A few more nice photos of the subject in hand for you !...
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The very nice Maritime Artillery Militia arm shield !...
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Another Maritime Artillery Militia arm shield


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Old 03-13-2018, 02:36 PM   #20
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The specimen in post #19 is the standard MVSN / Fascist Militia Coastal Arty sleeve shield (note the blue backing).
The specimen in post #18 was introduced in 1938 for the MVSN Anti-Aircraft & Coastal Arty Joint Command (note the different lettering and the red backing).
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Hello SL320...looks like you have a nice field forage cap/bustina for the maritime artt militia ..any chance of seeing more of it please ? ..Semovente
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This bustina is of a higher quality material and better built than the standard troops bustina.
No signs of rank stars laterally on the cap.
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Hello SL320 & thanks for the additional photos !..it would seem to be as already pointed out a better grade of Bustina ! ...so from this it was originaly thought that it might be possible a officers hat !?..but as already observed by Tankredi no sign of any rank stars etc !?..perhaps its original owner was just well heeled !?..or on first name terms with the quartermaster !.. ...but its still a very nice item..
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Hello SL320 & thanks for the additional photos !..it would seem to be as already pointed out a better grade of Bustina ! ...so from this it was originaly thought that it might be possible a officers hat !?..but as already observed by Tankredi no sign of any rank stars etc !?..perhaps its original owner was just well heeled !?..or on first name terms with the quartermaster !.. ...but its still a very nice item..
Maybe an NCO that could afford buying better quality uniforms.
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hello
many thank for your comments

Why do you say it is a better quality bustina?
It has been made in the normal italian panno Ortica with clear signs of wear in the exposed parts and has the external stitches slightly discolored, tending to white.
In the inner side has the classic liner and classic band.
No trace of ranks.

I like this MVSN side cap.
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hello
many thank for your comments

Why do you say it is a better quality bustina?
It has been made in the normal italian panno Ortica with clear signs of wear in the exposed parts and has the external stitches slightly discolored, tending to white.
In the inner side has the classic liner and classic band.
No trace of ranks.

I like this MVSN side cap.
Compare your bustina to the standard troops one for sale by a fellow forum member:
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=952368
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Compare your bustina to the standard troops one for sale by a fellow forum member:
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=952368
Dear tankredi
That bustina is an m 35 of a late production and probably, made by a poor maker...
I have seen a great variety in the EM bustine, very nice and very poor, with short visor and longer visor, dome made in classical two pieces or made in only one or even in four pieces.
Indeed I have other EM bustine exactly like the MILMART posted. I have poor made EM bustine too
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A poor quality officers Bustina with nice quality bullion badges..while a high quality officers Bustina with lesser quality black rayon badge !?..just some of the many differences to be found !
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Dear tankredi
That bustina is an m 35 of a late production and probably, made by a poor maker...
I have seen a great variety in the EM bustine, very nice and very poor, with short visor and longer visor, dome made in classical two pieces or made in only one or even in four pieces.
Indeed I have other EM bustine exactly like the MILMART posted. I have poor made EM bustine too
Hi SL320
I am completly agree with you. That Milmart is a correct EM bustina.
Yes there where different grades of quality in the production of Italian uniform.
This was due to the presence of different makers and surely the worst quality detected in construction and cutting of fabrics was present in those uniforms built by the common inmates. During the war civil prisoners were forced to this work, but evidently they did not put much effort into it.

Here are some examples of bustine.




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minor quality




in the upper bustina we can see that even the band liner is missing

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