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NPEA Leader Dagger for Review and Authentication
Old 12-04-2018, 11:37 AM   #1
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Hello,

I would appreciate any and all opinions on this Karl Burgsmuller NPEA Leader Dagger. I do not own an example and to be quite truthful I've only handled one. Comparing to originals though that have sold or are for sale there are several things that I'm uncomfortable with. The blade appears to be heavily cleaned. In addition, the lettering in the maker's logo doesn't appear correct. One of the umlaute is missing in Burgsmuller and the second L in the name also looks off. Could this be due to the cleaning? I think the chain and clip are ok but appear again to show heavy age. Well just a few things. I look forward to knowledge on this piece.

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Tim
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Old 12-04-2018, 11:38 AM   #2
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Old 12-04-2018, 12:03 PM   #3
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Ask for a picture of the blade tang before making any decisions
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Old 12-04-2018, 08:15 PM   #4
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Definitely like to see what, if any, the tang marks are. There are some things here I like
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:50 AM   #5
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Hello,

Thank you for the responses so far. I asked and the owner won't disassemble the dagger handle. So I guess at this point, I'm just looking for a or a . Thanks for the help.

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Old 12-05-2018, 12:09 PM   #6
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Early dagger with late trademark????
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:15 AM   #7
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Hello,

Thank you for the comments on the dagger. Unfortunately, the seller won't disassemble the dagger. He feels that the dagger has never been apart. I guess I can't do much more than pass on the dagger. You know when you open a thread and see comments like "one look original" or you truly have something. We just don't have that here.

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Old 12-06-2018, 01:31 PM   #8
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Hello,

Thank you for the comments on the dagger. Unfortunately, the seller won't disassemble the dagger. He feels that the dagger has never been apart. I guess I can't do much more than pass on the dagger. You know when you open a thread and see comments like "one look original" or you truly have something. We just don't have that here.

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Tim
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IMO you would do well passing on this one, as you got a good hint from Ron that it's not a textbook example.
If your looking for a NPEA dagger, Ron's book is a must on this difficult to acquire model.

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Old 12-06-2018, 01:45 PM   #9
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Thanks Serge and I agree. I'm curious just so I learn is it most likely that the blade was simply replaced with a later period blade (maybe original was damaged/heavy wear) or is this blade just bad all together or without tang pictures it is too hard to tell.

Thanks again,
Tim

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IMO you would do well passing on this one, as you got a good hint from Ron that it's not a textbook example.
If your looking for a NPEA dagger, Ron's book is a must on this difficult to acquire model.

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Old 12-06-2018, 03:28 PM   #10
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most likely that the blade was simply replaced with a later period blade (maybe original was damaged/heavy wear)
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I am offering my book $64.95 original price to members here at $29.95 plus shipping. Ron Weinand relic@warrelic.com
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