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Old 12-27-2009, 02:45 PM   #31
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Here's a (bad) photo of a couple I have. The blue top belonged to Hans Kohl, who wrote the book "Fischdampfer und Walfänger im Krieg".
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:04 PM   #32
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Gentlemen,

Thanks for adding these very interesting caps to the thread.

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Old 12-27-2009, 07:18 PM   #33
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Gents - Not my area of collecting, but nevertheless I'm enjoying these wonderful pieces immensely.

Thanks for the education.

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The Bordmütze in the BW Marine
Old 01-29-2010, 05:18 PM   #34
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Default The Bordmütze in the BW Marine

The first Bordmütze adopted was exactly the same as the Dienstmütze worn by the Heer and the Luftwaffe. They were adopted in 1956 and remained in wear until the Schiffschen was adopted in 1963. There would have been a wear out period of approximately two years while the Schiffschen were being produced, distributed and issued. While the first marine Bordmütze was of the same design as the Dienstmütze worn in the Heer and the Luftwaffe it was dark blue in colour. The only insignia worn on this mütze was the national cockade. The two buttons of the fold down section were gold. The first picture is a cropped section of a page from Jorge Hormann’s book which itself seems to be a copy of a page from an official BW publication.
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The second foto shows the Bordmütze in wear and is also from Hormann’s book.
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The Schiffschen that was adopted in 1963 was a big departure from the Schiffschen worn in the Kriegsmarine. It was made of a heavy wool material similar to that used in the Filzlaus Schiffschen. The turned down sides came in two sections. From the front of the cap, the turn down section sloped up towards the top fairly rapidly for almost half the length of the cap before turning down abruptly to the bottom. At its highest point it was sewn to the cap body. The actual turn down section started from where the front section ended and continued around the whole back half of the cap. The rear section of the turn down was fastened to the cap by a dome fastener arrangement. The enlisted men’s caps were un-pipped and had a diamond shaped woven cockade, in the national colours, sewn at the bottom of the cap front. Officers caps were pipped in Gold around the rear part of the turned up sections and had a large embroidered cockade, similar to the ones worn on visor caps, towards the top of the cap. Attached inside each side of the rear turn down section was an elastic chin straps that could be joined together by dome fasteners. The first foto shows an enlisted cap.
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A side view of the cap above.
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The next foto is an officers cap of this type. The foto is from Kunswadl's book.
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At a later date, a Schiffschen very similar to that worn in Kreigsmarine was introduced. It was in a much lighter material than the previous Schiffschen. It was very similar in design to the Schiffschen worn by the Heer and the Lufwaffe. The cockades worn on the enlisted and officers caps were the same as those worn on the previous Schiffschen. The turn down section was of one piece on these caps and could be folded down on both enlisted and officers style of cap. The same chin strap arrangement was used on these caps as on the previous shiffschen. The pipping on these caps was the same as on the earlier caps. The first foto is of an enlisted man’s cap.
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A side view of this cap.
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The makers label.
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The officers cap.
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A side view of the officers cap.
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The label in the officers cap.
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The most recent Bordmutze resembles a baseball cap or perhaps more correctly the similar shaped cammouflage caps worn by the Heer and the Luftwaffe although the Heer and Luftwaffe caps do not have side flaps that fold down. I have been unable to obtain one of these caps so far so I will have to post a picture of one from Kunstwadl's book.
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